Anesthesia question? - Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 01:09 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
kimoh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 87
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 0 Times in 0 Posts
Anesthesia question?

I was talking to my breeder this weekend about her cherry eye and she mentioned finding out what kind of anesthesia the vet used. She said she had heard anecdotal stories of Havanese not doing well with Ketamine.
This is what my vet typically uses, and he does see a number of havanese. I was curious if anyone else had ever heard this.

Thanks
Kim
kimoh is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 01:16 PM
Jeanne
 
MaddiesMom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,622
Submit Photo: 2
Photo Submissions 3 Times in 3 Posts
I don't know about Ketamine, but according to Havanese.org, the anesthesia of choice for a Havanese is Isoflurane. I wrote that down for future reference. Havanese do have problems with some anesthesias.

http://www.havanese.org/Education/ne...accination.htm

http://www.mts.net/~mckay55/anesthetic.htm

Jeanne (Mom to Maddie)
MaddiesMom is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 01:17 PM
Senior Member
 
Laurief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 9,794
Submit Photo: 2
Photo Submissions 28 Times in 20 Posts
Kim,If you look under the health questions under thread titled "Possible dangerous anesthesia" you will see an anesthesia that my breeder warned me about. It was not the one that you mentioned but I would ask for additional information from whoever told you this.
Laurie

Lily, Lexi ,Logan, Laila & Lizzie's Mom
www.HillsboroughHavanese.com
(Gigi, Lucas, Dugan, Madeline,Reo,Alvin, Lucky, Lukey, Punch, Colby & Ben-(we will always Love you!!)
Laurief is offline  
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 01:57 PM
Riley & Monte's mom
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 5,579
Submit Photo: 2
Photo Submissions 16 Times in 13 Posts
My vet uses Sevoflurane, I wonder what the difference is from Isoflurane?

Leeann, Riley, Monte & Rumor


Leeann is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 01:57 PM
Kimberly
 
Havtahava's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 10,275
Submit Photo: 5
Photo Submissions 18 Times in 12 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaddiesMom View Post
according to Havanese.org, the anesthesia of choice for a Havanese is Isoflurane. I wrote that down for future reference. Havanese do have problems with some anesthesias.

http://www.havanese.org/Education/ne...accination.htm

http://www.mts.net/~mckay55/anesthetic.htm
Yes, and I have also been told that Sevoflorine (sp?) is another good choice.

I have some additional related info that was posted to the main Havanese e-mail list by a long-time breeder who also works in the medical field:
Quote:
I would encourage all of you to insist that your dogs have IV fluids it can be the single most important thing to protect your dog in case of an emergency (route for drugs) and also it is vital for kidney function and to help with rapid recovery after surgery. Especially any C- sections. Even dentals.

It is up to us to be proactive in the care of our dogs. Older vets may insist it is not necessary but please tell them to do it anyway for your peace of mind!

Physiologically the body shuts down the normal flow of fluids in the body to protect it from loss of blood in case of injury (it does not know the "injury" is surgery!) The extra fluids given in surgery help to make up for this protective mechanism and protect the kidneys and the vital organs. This in humans is about a three day process which is why most post op folks notice some swelling at first then diuresis a few days later.

Also discussed was Sevoflorine a very good anesthetic for kids and dogs!
I hope this is helpful.
Havtahava is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 02:21 PM
Riley & Monte's mom
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 5,579
Submit Photo: 2
Photo Submissions 16 Times in 13 Posts
Thanks for the quick response Kimberly, I am already nervous about Monte getting neutered Thursday and went into panic mode reading this. Not knowing what my vet used. I was on the phone real quick and ready to cancel if needed.
Kim, this is great great information with so many of us having our boys neutered this week and more of us with puppies that are going to need to be neutered or spayed soon thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Leeann, Riley, Monte & Rumor


Leeann is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 02:39 PM
Brush Anyone??
 
TnTWalter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 983
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 7 Times in 5 Posts
They also have a blood test you can do BEFORE surgery..

to test for possible reaction or geez I'm not sure what...it's $60 at my vet's office.

I'm bm-king this for future reference. Thanks!

Winston's Mom, Trish
TnTWalter is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 03:33 PM
Senior Member
 
Beamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada!
Posts: 4,155
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 16 Times in 6 Posts
Ok, you all just got me real nervous reading about the different brands of anesthesia. I just called my vet, and they use Isoflurane. Not sure if that means much.. but since it 'seems' to be good for havanese, i'm happy!

Ryan
Beamer is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 04:22 PM
Senior Member
 
SMARTY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Georgia
Posts: 4,107
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 8 Times in 8 Posts
Several weeks ago Smarty had upper baby canines remove. We did the blood test for liver and kidney functions ($50), to make sure all was in the normal range. She was given an IV. The vet put her under with Isoflurane, and followed up with oxygen.

My vet has always been “rather be safe than sorry” so he does the extras to ensure a safe tranquilization. Any dog can have a reaction, so I am always a nervous wreck.

Smarty did beautifully, I clipped her nails while she was out.

Sandi, taking a new road with Smarty and Galen
SMARTY is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 04:32 PM
Riley & Monte's mom
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 5,579
Submit Photo: 2
Photo Submissions 16 Times in 13 Posts
Sandi my vet does the exact same thing. He charged me $50 for the blood work and I know he gives an IV, I just could not remember the type of Anesthesia he used and like you said "better to be safe than sorry" so I called right away to make sure.

Ryan Isoflurane is what they suggest on the HCA so yes that is great.

Geez you think this would be easier the second time around, ya right I'm still a mess...

Leeann, Riley, Monte & Rumor


Leeann is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome