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As I've mentioned in other threads, I've had hell of a time housetraining Louis (got him at 2 years old). He's been doing REALLY great though! The last potty accident in the house was about 4 months ago! Seems like ages ago when you are accident free. He's even rang the bell a couple of times to be let out. When he's doing an activity like chewing bones, he will stop, come stare at me, or even sit. I feel like this is his way of alerting me; I take him outside immediately, he pees, he runs back inside and happily resumes his activity. I've even gotten comfortable leaving him out as opposed to crating him when I'm doing dishes or an activity where I cannot watch him. He's been doing well and he will just lay down in the living room. I wouldn't call him 100% reliably potty trained, but it has been an improvement. Even when he doesn't directly alert me, I know the signs he has to pee. He will wander with his nose to the ground, back and forth with a quicker shuffling movement.

So, after all that - my husband and I were in the living room. We were talking to each other and all of a sudden I noticed Louis squatting on the dog bed. He was standing very still. I said "Louis, are you PEEING?!" and he was!!! To me, he did it with no signs he was wanting to pee (or maybe he did but they were SO subtle??), AND he did it RIGHT IN FRONT OF US! Even my husband said it was 'so random.' I find it really weird Louis would pee on the dog bed. I'm trying to figure out why he would do this. I did dogsit a friend's dog this past weekend who used the dog bed a lot, but I washed the cover since then. The dog bed was sitting on the floor with a clean cover for a couple of days - you would think he would have peed on it earlier. My husband thought maybe because his backpack was on the dog bed, it made the bed smell differed. He uses the backpack for traveling so I'm sure as odd smells. I just don't know what to make of it - but because of this potty incident, we are right back to being more strict about his freedom. Why do you think he did this? I was so shocked I didn't even have time to get mad. Louis was taken out to potty and he had peed 30 minutes before this incident. BTW, even my husband has watched him, and he's not the most attentive person when it comes to potty training, and Louis did great with him. Very perplexing!

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I do think that in the training process they do weird random regressions. I know Louis isn't a puppy, but he is still learning potty training as if he was one. I remember once Brody going over to his Ugodog and then peeing next to it, he didn't even have a paw on it so it wasn't like the times he did the "have front paws on the Ugodog and let 'er fly". I've not had a problem with him since that.

Like you, I was so shocked and wondering what on earth he was thinking, I was right there watching him. He'd been doing things right for ages. He did this occasionally for a couple of days and then started using the Ugodog properly again.

If I recall correctly I just put him back on the Ugodog (after he was done) and said "go, here." (I'm sure he didn't understand that.)...if I try to do anything (like move him to the proper surface mid-activity) while he is actually doing it he just freezes up. Then I made sure to make a big deal again when he got it right.

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When Piper was first house trained, she hadn't had in accident in over a month- I was making the bed and the comforter was on the floor and she did the same thing. She was lying on it watching me and next thing I knew she was peeing! I remember the feeling of not quite believing what I was seeing.
I have to say, that was the last accident she had and I'm not quite sure why it happened. Weird.

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dogs are only human lol. Quite possible a marking incident. Just remember , NO reactions to accidents. Keep rewarding for good episodes.

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I was way too shocked to be angry. I phased out treats long time ago, but maybe I need to implement them again for good potty behavior. It probably was marking so I cannot hold it against him. If he did this at home, then I will need to watch him more carefully when we go out of town. THIS time, we get to take the dogs with us! We will be staying in a hotel and imagine all the smells in there!

On a positive note - we had my friends drop off their dogs for grooming. They had their two dogs in the front yard, and I brought out Louis. It was low traffic in the neighborhood so not many cars, and the dogs stayed in the front yard. Louis let a MAN pet him on top of his head! And he did not cower. He trotted around and peed and pooped. So that means he was comfortable with the dogs and everyone there (it was me, my husband, my husband's friend and his wife).

We are still working on the potty thing apparently, but I would much rather him be friendly with strangers, so I guess it evened out today lol.

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I was way too shocked to be angry. I phased out treats long time ago, but maybe I need to implement them again for good potty behavior. It probably was marking so I cannot hold it against him. If he did this at home, then I will need to watch him more carefully when we go out of town. THIS time, we get to take the dogs with us! We will be staying in a hotel and imagine all the smells in there!

On a positive note - we had my friends drop off their dogs for grooming. They had their two dogs in the front yard, and I brought out Louis. It was low traffic in the neighborhood so not many cars, and the dogs stayed in the front yard. Louis let a MAN pet him on top of his head! And he did not cower. He trotted around and peed and pooped. So that means he was comfortable with the dogs and everyone there (it was me, my husband, my husband's friend and his wife).

We are still working on the potty thing apparently, but I would much rather him be friendly with strangers, so I guess it evened out today lol.
you're right about fazing out rewards. But never faze them out totally. A random reinforcement schedule is always recommended with many behaviors and it is best to be unprecdictable. Certain behaviors may become extinct if they are not reinforced. Good luck.

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