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Chasing, growling and playing too rough - help!

When Benny wants attention from my boys he jumps on them, growls and bites at their shorts and socks. The boys are not scared or anything, they know he is playing rough and he doesn't hurt them, but it is very annoying.

The other behavior that I am not happy with is that he loves to chase the kids! They love to be chased, so this doesn't help me, but when we have other kids here and he chases and growls at them, they are not always so understanding.

I am looking for some training advice on how to redirect him and have him understand that this behavior is not acceptable.

He is 7 months old and my boys are 11, 9 & 7.

Thanks!

Edited to add: I just read this on another site, "It sounds like she is barking, nipping and running away to try and instigate a game of chase/play. If your kids then chase her to catch her and put her in the crate, then she's taught them a game of catch me if you can. Ignoring her really won't stop her because she may just get more persistent in her nips until she gets the desired result - chase!"

This is EXACTLY what Benny is doing! Now... how to stop it?

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Regarding your last comment: I know dogs just love to be chased. And even chasing them once will encourage the behavior. Charley has tried to get me to chase him even to put his harness on. But I'm not playing the game. First of all, he's too fast for me to catch. I'd rather he chase me. So, I run the other direction until he catches me. Voila! I'm sure others will chime in regarding the bigger problem.

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oh, another thing I do is give a sit-stay command and that usually stops him from running.

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I am having the same issue with my 5 month old girl puppy. Everytime my son walks by her xpen she jumps up, barks, growls at him for attention. If we let her out to play she is extremely rough and nips him all over. She has nipped my when I try to intervene. I would like to hear other responses to this as well.


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I am having the same issue with my 5 month old girl puppy. Everytime my son walks by her xpen she jumps up, barks, growls at him for attention. If we let her out to play she is extremely rough and nips him all over. She has nipped my when I try to intervene. I would like to hear other responses to this as well.
Benny doesn't pull any crap with me... he knows full well I am alpha around here. The kids, on the other hand, are litter mates in his eyes, so I need to teach him that the kids rank higher than him, I just don't exactly know how.

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I work with behaviorists in my day job, and I've had my share of unwanted dog behaviors and worked with different trainers. I'm not a pro but this is what I see.

1) unwanted advances to play.

2) plays too rough.

For both you have 3 options:
1) shape (change existing behavior into something more acceptable)
2) redirect (give a sit command, or any other command and reward for good behavior)
3) extinguish unwanted behavior.


for the playing to rough behaviors, your children need to let the dog know it's too rough, just like a littermate would. yell ouch or make a loud sound then stop play immediately. even turn around so the child isn't facing the dog. once in a while my little guy is too rough with me and when he hears me say ouch or any other expletive, he actually licks where whereever he mouthed too hard.

extinguish the behavior (harrassing someone to play). the person cannot give any attention to the dog. turn around or leave or give the dog a 3 minute time out (separate room or bathroom), each time it happens. trust me they figure it out quick. YES, the dog may have an 'extincion burst' meaning that the unwanted behavior might increase or escalate, before it is gone completely, that's typical and to be expected. just keep doing what you do, be consistent.

I like the timeout myself.

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good stuff Jacqueline.
Nothing wrong with playing chase games .Dogs love to chase and be chased. The only thing is you have to have rules. Same with tug . You have to invite the dogs to start and you end it. When rough housing . You have to go by the same rules as when teaching bite inhibitiion. I have two articles , one on tug and one on teaching bite inhibition . The rules are similar to chasing and playing rough house. The boys can't get carried away with the rough housing. Pauses and control are needing . Here are the articles.
http://www.sfspca.org/sites/default/...tug-of-war.pdf and here http://www.dogstardaily.com/training...ite-inhibition

Forget about the hierarchy thing. It's a case of teaching your dog appropriate manners.

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