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Another crate training question for you guys! When putting a puppy to sleep at night, i know lots of pups tend to scratch, bark and wine during the night. I know its best to ignore this behavior but how can you tell whether the pup is just getting used to sleeping alone as opposed to needing a potty break?

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Another crate training question for you guys! When putting a puppy to sleep at night, i know lots of pups tend to scratch, bark and wine during the night. I know its best to ignore this behavior but how can you tell whether the pup is just getting used to sleeping alone as opposed to needing a potty break?

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I used the same approach I did with my kids when they woke up as babies... Custodial care only.. I'd check for soiled diaper, that they were warm (or cool) enough, feed them, and put them back to bed, all with a minimum of talk, and NO playing. With Kodi, of course, I didn't feed him at night... Just took him to potty, then right back in his crate. He quickly learned that nothing fun was going to happen, and went back to sleep. But he was a pretty easy puppy anyway. I don't think we had to get up with him at night after his first week or so at home.


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Ah.. Ok this is a good rule of thumb Karen. Can't say I'm not concerned about those first couple of nights but I suppose it's just about setting a precedent. Thanks! I hope my guy falls into the pattern of sleeping through the night pretty early on.


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I think, to a large extent, it depends on how young your pup is when you bring him or her home whether they will be able to make it through the night. I think 8 week old puppies are often just not mature enough. We didn't get Kodi until he was 11 weeks, and by then his bladder was big enough that he could hold it. (and we always had water available to him overnight too)

There are pros and cons to getting puppies early or late... If you aren't ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that your breeder is doing all the early socialization and enrichment that a young puppy brain needs, plus working HARD on potty training, you are better off taking them home at 8 weeks. If you have a great breeder, who is giving the pups plenty of socialization, life experiences and good early potty training, there are some benefits to leaving them with their breeder and siblings for another few weeks. One of those benefits is they are more likely to sleep through the night.


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Well I don't have to tell you Karen.. Pam and Tom are are pretty darn fabulous, so by the time we get our little guy (also at 11 weeks) he will have been exposed to a lot! If I wasnt dying to get him I could've left him with them a little longer! I'm sure it will be fine I just need to set the ground rules should he have to go at night.

Karen, did you also leave water out for Kodi at night as a pup?




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Well I don't have to tell you Karen.. Pam and Tom are are pretty darn fabulous, so by the time we get our little guy (also at 11 weeks) he will have been exposed to a lot! If I wasnt dying to get him I could've left him with them a little longer! I'm sure it will be fine I just need to set the ground rules should he have to go at night.

Karen, did you also leave water out for Kodi at night as a pup?
Oh! I forgot you were getting a Starborn pup! Yes, I would have NO qualms about taking even an older pup from the Kings, (if they ever HAD one!) and I think 11-12 weeks is a great age to get one of their pups. Old enough to be well on their way in terms of potty training, well socialized, (though, of course you need to keep up with your part of both!!!) and with better bite inhibition and less "nippiness" than with a lot of puppies who leave their dog family at 8 weeks.

Yes, I don't believe in leaving animals without access to fresh water at all times. (unless it's medically necessary) People who choose to withhold water do it for their convenience, not the well-being of the dog. Even when Kodi is in his small, plastic dog show crate, he always has either a bowl attached to the wire front or a bottle.


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Fair enough... Just didn't think about middle of night thirst. Yeah my guy is a Starborn pup and I most definitely keep up with socialization.. Don't want to undo all of the hard work Tom and Pam will have done.

Karen, did you ever put up the pics from your recent visit to the King's? Any chance to see more of those pups is always appreciated!!

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No... I got busy. I've got to do some other photo work tonight, but I'll try to get some up tomorrow


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