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I'm a newbie researching the Havanese and breeders. I fell in love with the breed after a freind introduced me to hers and now I've got to get one. I've spoke with a couple of breeders and I'm trying to narrow it down. Any suggestions? One breeder gave this long dissertation about the unethical practice of inbreeding and the negative consequences. This is after I thought I knew all there was to know....oh well. Please give me any advice I need to know or perhaps where I can find a reliable breeder. I'm in the Atlanta area if that helps. I'd rather travel to pick him up.

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I am sure you will find all the helpful information that you will need to make the right decision on here. As Kara said make sure they do all the health testing on both the sire and dam...that is very important. I would say go with a breeder that you feel comfortable with. My husband and I looked for over a year and went back to the first person we met because she was soo helpful and continues to be in our lives.

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Welcome and make sure you ask all the right questions before you decide on a breeder.
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I know there is a thread on here about finding a good breeder.Please do a search.....I'm sorry I don't know how to link you....but it is on here.

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Like it was posted there are breeders on this forum who have very high standards even though no puppies are ever advertised for sale you can visit their websites ..
health testing is very important and i think all reputable breeders should take the dog back if there is a problem ..
The good news is that there are a lot of wonderul people out there now breeding Havanese..
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I might be wrong but I don't think Line breeding is a bad thing. I think the majority of breeders do it.





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Hello & Welcome! You've made a great decision! Havanese are the most wonderful friends! I waited 4 years to get #1 and within a month I was looking for #2. It's called MHS and it strikes quickly! (Multiple Havanese Syndrome)

I think it depends on what you're looking for. If you'd like a lot of support/advice from your breeder ~ I'd recommend you look for a breeder that has a couple/few litters a year and does all health testing. Even if you have to wait several months, it will be worth the wait. Both my pups came from large, very reputable breeders, and both are very healthy, but once I handed over the check, the transaction was complete. All of a sudden no replies to the e-mails/pictures I send. Lots of conversation prior to picking up puppy, none afterwards. This has been my personal experience. As these were the first puppies I've ever had - I'm thankful for this forum. There is great advice & support here! When/If I look for #3 I'll look for someone like Jan (referenced above) who is passionate and loves her puppies even after they've moved onto their fur-ever homes.


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Hi Everyone,

I'm a newbie researching the Havanese and breeders. I fell in love with the breed after a freind introduced me to hers and now I've got to get one. I've spoke with a couple of breeders and I'm trying to narrow it down. Any suggestions? One breeder gave this long dissertation about the unethical practice of inbreeding and the negative consequences. This is after I thought I knew all there was to know....oh well. Please give me any advice I need to know or perhaps where I can find a reliable breeder. I'm in the Atlanta area if that helps. I'd rather travel to pick him up.

Thanks
There is nothing unethical about inbreeding, linebreeding, or outcrossing first off. A breeding decision, no matter which way a breeder decides, should never be done without a lot of thought, research and understanding of the breed standard and the lines in which the breeder is working with.

I would contact the local Havanese club or at least the one closest to you. You can get that information by going to www.havanese.org. Attend some dog shows to meet breeders.
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Hi Everyone,

I'm a newbie researching the Havanese and breeders. I fell in love with the breed after a freind introduced me to hers and now I've got to get one. I've spoke with a couple of breeders and I'm trying to narrow it down. Any suggestions? One breeder gave this long dissertation about the unethical practice of inbreeding and the negative consequences. This is after I thought I knew all there was to know....oh well. Please give me any advice I need to know or perhaps where I can find a reliable breeder. I'm in the Atlanta area if that helps. I'd rather travel to pick him up.

Thanks
I think you should also be able to see the dogs in person. Of course, we didn't meet Sully till after Nationals. But, we had known him by his rep (as Kokomo's Smokey's on Fire) and his breeders rep for wonderful dogs. I would also, insist on pics of the parents. What size are they? What is the size doggie you are looking for? Will the breeders back up their dog?

Not to dishearten you, but it took over a year to find our dog.
We were wanting a female, at least 2 years old. Let me rephrase that, my husband was looking for that. I wanted a male, and pref brown, orange, or red. Sully is a make and Havana Brown/silver. But, DH couldn't be happier. It helped he was house trained so well.

Look at the breeders on the forum. I met BeverlyA (not a breeder) but lives in NE, she introed me to Dee Hinkle in the town next to us and I didn't even know she was there, and Dee intro-ed me to Karen Ku, Sully's former Mommy! I think the folks here are A # 1! You have any question, someone here will likely have an answer.

Oh and as for inbreeding. It is wrong, sister/cousins is just wrong. Line breeding is another subject. It is up too good breeders to decide how tight the line will be. You can get both the good and the bad doing it. But all the dogs are related, go thru the pedigrees same ol sets of names keep popping up.

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I agree it is an individual decision even though human marrying their cousins is frowned on . ..except in Utah or Arizona on the Warren Jetts compound
The good news is that there are so many wonderful supportive breeders out there now and you can pick and choose . I did not have that option when I got Asta ..I have said it before but new people need to be aware of the progress made in the past five years .. There was no Havanese forum to talk to . My friend Donna got her dog from a breeder who was supposedly conscientious and she health tested all her dogs cerf patellas everything . Well Tulip had to have both patellas operated on .. Caching Caching . We found a great surgeon and she is fine but it was an added cost ..
Tulip has a rasta type coat and we think a Bichon got through the fence . We will never know . We do know she is one sweet little girl and she loves to play dress up so what does it matter..
I waited 9 months for Asta and I got a different puppy that the one I asked for .. I supposedly got the pick of the litter and in my eyes he was .. I was lucky she made the decision she did . He did have a irregualrity with his adult teeth .. Once I told the breeder I never heard from her again . I was only telling her for breeding purposes not because I wanted to return him ..
I never wanted to send him back he was such an incredible dog ..
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