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What behavioral issues (including barking/noisy) do your havanese have?

So far what I have read & been told is that these dogs are perfect. I don't see the grooming as a problem but now that I am ready to get a dog. I would like to know the actual down sides to these breed.
Also I know they are velcro dogs but I would like to go to the kitchen alone with the area blocked with baby gate with out it crying. The kitchen is a no no for dogs i eat lots of food that would be toxic to a dog & sometimes drop a piece(yes i clean it up but still dangerous). I would like to sit on the toilet with out it trying to cuddle. Do they NEED to be with you all the time or else they scream?


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So far what I have read & been told is that these dogs are perfect. I don't see the grooming as a problem but now that I am ready to get a dog. I would like to know the actual down sides to these breed.
Also I know they are velcro dogs but I would like to go to the kitchen alone with the area blocked with baby gate with out it crying. The kitchen is a no no for dogs i eat lots of food that would be toxic to a dog & sometimes drop a piece(yes i clean it up but still dangerous). I would like to sit on the toilet with out it trying to cuddle. Do they NEED to be with you all the time or else they scream?


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It's really a matter of TRAINING and limit-setting. If you allow (or encourage) the dog to become an appendage, many of them will. Yes, they are companion dogs, and like being with their "peeps", but they don't HAVE to be joined with you at the hip.

I don't really mind that Kodi follows me into the bathroom, so I have never trained him to stay out. Other people choose to teach them that they must respect that space. As far as the kitchen is concerned, we have a big, eat-in kitchen, and a lot of family-time takes place there. I don't want to make Kodi stay out of that room. But, like you, I cook, and I drop things. So teaching "Leave it!" was high on my priority list when he was a puppy. I can drop a whole cutting board full of onions on the floor (yes, I've done this ) and he will stand back and wait when I tell him to. OTOH, if I drop something he CAN eat, I'll tell him "Get that!" and he's on it in a split second.

But if YOU choose to teach your dog not to cross the kitchen threshold, you can certainly do that, no baby gate require. (after the puppy phase of course!) My preference s to teach "Place!" or "In your crate!" so that whatever I'm doing, ANYWHERE in the house, if Kodi might be in the way, and a danger to either himself or others, I can send him somewhere I know he's safe.

Havanese are a very, VERY trainable breed. If you get a good one, started right by a good breeder, you should have no trouble molding the behaviors YOU want. If you are talking about adult dogs, I think that Havanese with behavioral "issues" are Havanese that haven't had the training they need.

If you are talking about puppies, Havanese puppies aren't that different from other breeds. Some find that they take a little longer to potty train than large breed dogs, but this doesn't need to be a problem... it's a matter of controlling the environment (not giving them too much freedom, and lots of praise for getting it right) until they are confirmed in good habits. Do the chew and use their needle teeth? Yes, but no more than most breeds, and less than many. Do they bark? again, yes, but most puppies of most breeds go through a "barky" phase. With good handling, management and training, they grow out of all of these things. That's what raising a puppy is all about!


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It's really a matter of TRAINING and limit-setting. If you allow (or encourage) the dog to become an appendage, many of them will. Yes, they are companion dogs, and like being with their "peeps", but they don't HAVE to be joined with you at the hip.

I don't really mind that Kodi follows me into the bathroom, so I have never trained him to stay out. Other people choose to teach them that they must respect that space. As far as the kitchen is concerned, we have a big, eat-in kitchen, and a lot of family-time takes place there. I don't want to make Kodi stay out of that room. But, like you, I cook, and I drop things. So teaching "Leave it!" was high on my priority list when he was a puppy. I can drop a whole cutting board full of onions on the floor (yes, I've done this ) and he will stand back and wait when I tell him to. OTOH, if I drop something he CAN eat, I'll tell him "Get that!" and he's on it in a split second.

But if YOU choose to teach your dog not to cross the kitchen threshold, you can certainly do that, no baby gate require. (after the puppy phase of course!) My preference s to teach "Place!" or "In your crate!" so that whatever I'm doing, ANYWHERE in the house, if Kodi might be in the way, and a danger to either himself or others, I can send him somewhere I know he's safe.

Havanese are a very, VERY trainable breed. If you get a good one, started right by a good breeder, you should have no trouble molding the behaviors YOU want. If you are talking about adult dogs, I think that Havanese with behavioral "issues" are Havanese that haven't had the training they need.

If you are talking about puppies, Havanese puppies aren't that different from other breeds. Some find that they take a little longer to potty train than large breed dogs, but this doesn't need to be a problem... it's a matter of controlling the environment (not giving them too much freedom, and lots of praise for getting it right) until they are confirmed in good habits. Do the chew and use their needle teeth? Yes, but no more than most breeds, and less than many. Do they bark? again, yes, but most puppies of most breeds go through a "barky" phase. With good handling, management and training, they grow out of all of these things. That's what raising a puppy is all about!
Good stuff Karen. I want to stress what you said about the breeder - that doing your research on the breeder is absolutely imperative i you're getting a puppy, especially when it comes to reducing the amounts of so-called 'behavioral' issues you inherit with a new dog/puppy. A good breeder starts training and socializing from the very start, and that good start will generally pay off in spades down the line. For instance, just a few things the breeder should be doing - the breeder should have a good start on housebreaking before the puppies go home, should have socialized the pups well with people, 'safe' vaccinated dogs (i.e., the parents), other animals such as cats if possible, LOTS of people including children (with supervision, of course), exposed the puppies to noises (vacuum and such), car rides, etc. Without that early exposure (in always a safe, controlled environment of course), you are much more likely to get a dog that is afraid of people, other animals, loud noises, has anxiety, is hard to house-break, and so on. Not that those dogs can't get over their anxieties and issues and aren't just as worthy of love! But if you really are looking to get a dog with as few 'issues' as possible, do your research on the breeder, ask lots of questions, be sure that they are giving your dog the best start possible .

Good luck, and welcome back to the forum! You obviously have been thinking about getting a hav for a long time (that was still you that was posting 2+ years ago right?)
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I agree with the above.

Doug is actually trained not to go in the kitchen. So I can be in there cooking and he knows to stop outside so he will lay there and watch me do what I need to do. Similar to when I go to my bedroom he knows to stay out or down the hall way, he stays there waiting until called (as this is the way out of the house to he knows the difference of when he is allowed or isnt)

My partner and I both work full time and Doug seems to have adapted fine to this also it was very stressful to begin with as I would worry about the fact ppl say Havs are velcro dogs and don't like to be without their owners - he knows when I am leaving and so long as we give him a treat he is happy! Also on the days my husband is home or gets in earlier than the 'norm' Doug is just sleeping. He knows play time is of an afternoon/evening.
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Photo of Doug outside the kitchen

Here is Doug whilst I am in the kitchen. I took a photo as Doug could smell the chicken I was preparing and was testing his usualy 'boundary' which made me laugh.
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Haha that's awesome! He's a smart one, just has his nose across the line
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There's a breed standard, and traits within a breed, but each dog is an individual. Your actual hav may vary. meaning he/she might be independent, not a velcro dog.

very smart, very trainable. so much so, that if you are making mistakes while training, so will the dog.

My first anatolian male, I got him at 5 1/2 yrs old, a rescue, and in my mind the absolute perfect dog in temperament and personality. He followed me every where, and he was 120 lbs. I never peed alone. There is no where in the breed description of the anatolian that mentions they are a borderline stalker. they are supposed to be independent and aloof. loving to their master. no where was there a whisper of being a velcro dog. I've had 4 anatolians now, and he was the only one like that.

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Its like he thinks I wont notice. He is meant to be behind that tile. So once I said "Doug out" he wriggled back. lol
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My Hav respects the bathroom door, but my cat doesn't . A big kitchen here too - so the leave it (or just an "eh!") command is helpful. But really, my Hav waits for permission to eat anything unless I hand it to him directly. Also, my Hav never went through a barking phase. I only hear him actually bark maybe twice/month. He makes a lot of other quieter noises to communicate - mostly within the monkey realm or the nose bump. He never 'screams' or 'whines' or does any separation anxiety behaviors.

Get on the training from day 1 and get a professional involved. Havs are smart and will pick up on your smallest behaviors; trainers are great at pointing those out. The reinforcing the behaviors you want and ignoring/redirecting the ones you don't are KEY. I was really good about not responding to crying or whining or pawing when he was a pup and only rewarding sitting quietly. So now there's a lot of sitting quietly at my feet looking up at me eagerly for attention .

For me, grooming is the hardest part, especially with a pup who loves to jump in puddles, wrestle, and get dirty whenever possible. It takes time to keep on top of the long hair. It takes time and some skill to do it yourself. It can be really expensive to get professional grooming done from someone you trust on a regular basis. It really not that bad, but compared to my cat - definitely high maintenance.
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I am no dog trainer, but we've been consistent with Cappy on housetraining and manners since we brought him home. He was reliably housetrained at 9 months, does not beg for food, lays outside the bathroom quietly, and does not jump on people. (I also taught him some really great tricks that he loves to show off for company LOL). I think the biggest thing is exactly what Karen and the others have said. Start from the beginning, be consistent, and have realistic expectations. I rave about the breed to everyone I know - the best little dogs there are!
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