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does anyone have suggestions for cleaning eye stains? my havanese is a cream color and the eye stains stick out like a sore thumb. i have a tear stain remover that i got a the pet store but it doens't seem to work very well. any ideas?
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my cream color Havanese had the same problem. One of the suggestions I received was to change her diet & give her nothing with "beets" in it. Apparently a lot of the dog foods have beets. After a while It seemed to go away. She has been on special vet SO diet for over a year now and her eye stains are gone. I dont remember what the "non-beet" food was but it was one of the higher end over the counter foods. Just an idea.
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My havanese doesnt have as much of a problem but I am also owned by a maltese... who can get bad tear staining especially in certain times of the year. A lot of people say some dogs will just have this issue their entire life, but some things you can do to help it:

I give both my dogs filtered water from Culligan... Okay, there water dish is in the basement and I dont have water down near it so I had an excuse!

Also check the ingredients in your dog food as mentioned above. Belle is fed organic dog food.

I also really like eye envy product. It takes a few weeks but works wonders! I use this when it gets really bad in the spring and fall.
http://www.eyeenvy.com/

Good luck,
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Check to see that there are no eyelashes that curl in and touch the eyeball. If that is the problem, it's easy to get permanently removed. If the pup is still very young there is a chance that it will outgrow the staining once the tearducts get larger and it gets through teething.
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I have been researching this problem and the information I have come up with is that tear staining can be a result of several things. One of the theories talks about the presence of bacterial or yeast infection- the yeast infection is called Ptyrosporin or Red Yeast which causes a deep reddish -brown stain. Low grade bacterial infections in the tear ducts are also common and may cause excess tearing and staining.
The action of this product that I have found is said to take place by tying up circulating porphyins- a compoound that reacts with light to produce the reddish stain. THe ingredients of this product is supposed to prevent the dog from contracting Ptyrosporin and bacterial infections which causes excess tearing and staining.
The over the counter product that advertises this product is called Angels Eyes. (There is also another similar product called Angels' Glow but I did not choose that one because it contains dye in it!) Angels Eyes does not contain dyes or wheat products and is sprinkled in the food- therefore is a systemic treatment rather then the thousands of topical agents out there on the market that I have found to be totally useless. Results are said to occur anywhere between 3 to 5 weeks as the old stained hair is slowly cut off as new hair grown in.

But I am not a vet, a chemist or knowledgeable enough about the biology of bacteria and yeast infections to be able to analize or comment on these type of products. Is there any one out there that does understand thiese actions and knows whether these products are truly safe?

In any event, I have sent for his product out of desparation- so I do not know whether it works.

My vet has been less than helpful with this issue.

Is there anyone out there with other information? I am aware of the other theories about food colorings, teething issues related to tear staining, other teeth or gum problems causing excess tearing and genes. But what is there that can be done besides the obvious notion that one should eliminate any food that contains dyes?

Thanks for you help!
PS I am thrilled to have found this forum!!!!!!!!
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Tear Stains

I have been researching this problem and the information I have come up with is that tear staining can be a result of several things. One of the theories talks about the presence of bacterial or yeast infection- the yeast infection is called Ptyrosporin or Red Yeast which causes a deep reddish -brown stain. Low grade bacterial infections in the tear ducts are also common and may cause excess tearing and staining.
The action of this product that I have found is said to take place by tying up circulating porphyins- a compoound that reacts with light to produce the reddish stain. THe ingredients of this product is supposed to prevent the dog from contracting Ptyrosporin and bacterial infections which causes excess tearing and staining.
The over the counter product that advertises this product is called Angels Eyes. (There is also another similar product called Angels' Glow but I did not choose that one because it contains dye in it!) Angels Eyes does not contain dyes or wheat products and is sprinkled in the food- therefore is a systemic treatment rather then the thousands of topical agents out there on the market that I have found to be totally useless. Results are said to occur anywhere between 3 to 5 weeks as the old stained hair is slowly cut off as new hair grown in.

But I am not a vet, a chemist or knowledgeable enough about the biology of bacteria and yeast infections to be able to analize or comment on these type of products. Is there any one out there that does understand thiese actions and knows whether these products are truly safe?

In any event, I have sent for his product out of desparation- so I do not know whether it works.

My vet has been less than helpful with this issue.

Is there anyone out there with other information? I am aware of the other theories about food colorings, teething issues related to tear staining, other teeth or gum problems causing excess tearing and genes. But what is there that can be done besides the obvious notion that one should eliminate any food that contains dyes?

Thanks for you help!
PS I am thrilled to have found this forum!!!!!!!!
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I bought Angels' eyes. The one you sprinkle over their food that is kind of yellowish in color. My maltese refused to eat her food. I thought she was just being picky or didnt like the smell of it then i put my pinky finger in and placed it in my mouth... it is the most awful tasting thing in the world. No wonder she would back away from her normally favorite meal of the day!

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Vinegar

Wow- that is an interesting approach. What made you try vinegar? It does make sense though, that you are changeing the acidity of something in their system and perhaps it is neutralizing the chemical causing the reddish stain that comes out their eyes in a clear liquid. Keep me posted!
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