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Lyme Strikes Again

Not a dog or a person this time, buy my poor pony.

My horse, Oliver, has been off and on just a LITTLE lame, and not quite himself for several weeks. At first we thought he just had a minor soft tissue injury, and the vet did a bursa injection in his shoulder and we gave him a month off. In the mean time, Dave got sick, so Oliver went on the back burner.

When we really wasn't any better, we had him titered for Lyme, and it turns out that his lelvels were very high. The good news is that he's started on his Doxy, and, if things run typically, he should be feeling a lot better in a couple of weeks. (though he will have to continue with his abx for a month)

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Good golly!! At least, you can be sure he will be a better patient. A couple of carrots and he will be your slave.

Poor Oliver.

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Good golly!! At least, you can be sure he will be a better patient. A couple of carrots and he will be your slave.

Poor Oliver.
He's always been a good boy. From the day we brought him home as a two year old. He's 18 now, and still amazing. That's why, when he came up lame, it was so surprising. He's one of the soundest horses I've ever known.


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Wow, Karen, I'd say your family has had enough now for awhile, you think?? Hope your horse is soon on the mend. How is Dave doing? Hope he is continuing to mend as well.

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so sorry Karen. when it rains it pours. I don't know if it is the same in animals...but it has been discovered (in humans) that doxy suppresses the buggers, but does not kill them -- and actually makes the the sprirochetes go into cyst form where antibiotics can't touch them...unless the doxy is given at high enough doses then it can kill them. for humans it is double the dose normally given. Just something to ask the vet about. I think first line of defense is now either ceftin or azythromycin.

How is dave doing? How are you?




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Wow, Karen, I'd say your family has had enough now for awhile, you think?? Hope your horse is soon on the mend. How is Dave doing? Hope he is continuing to mend as well.
Dave's slowly improving, day by day. He's a typical guy in that he tries to do too much (more than he's cleared to do) then collapses from exhaustion.

Oliver is a much better patient.... he's quite happy "outstanding in his field". It just makes me feel sorry for him that we didn't think of this quicker, because we had the exact same thing happen to us with an older pony here a number of years ago. We thought he was just getting old and creaky because he was fine some days, and off other days. (he WAS an old pony) When we finally thought to get a Lyme titer and started him on Doxy, within a couple of weeks he was running and bucking in the field like a two year old.


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so sorry Karen. when it rains it pours. I don't know if it is the same in animals...but it has been discovered (in humans) that doxy suppresses the buggers, but does not kill them -- and actually makes the the sprirochetes go into cyst form where antibiotics can't touch them...unless the doxy is given at high enough doses then it can kill them. for humans it is double the dose normally given. Just something to ask the vet about. I think first line of defense is now either ceftin or azythromycin.

How is dave doing? How are you?
They don't use all the same abx on horses that they do on people and dogs. Horses have very sensitive digestive tracts, so you have to be careful what you give them. I ran his protocol past another friend who is a vet. She said there were two schools of thought with horses at this point. They either start them off with a couple of weeks of IV Tetracycline, followed by 4 weeks of Doxy, or they treat them with straight Doxy for 4-6 weeks. The IV abx must be administered by a vet, so that either means the vet needs to come out daily, or the horse needs to be hospitalized. Both are expensive and hospitalization has a host of other dangers for a horse. My friend said that in her clinical experience, even with her personal horses, she has had good results with just the Doxy. So that's what we're going with for now.

Dave is coming along. We have had Dr's appointments and/or tests every day this week, but hopefully it will slow down a bit by next week.


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Sorry about your pony, Karen. One of our girls is battling chronic Lyme, having been misdiagnosed 17 years ago, so I know what it can cause. Hope your pony has good results with the Doxy.
Glad to hear that Dave is on the mend. Maybe one of these days you can stop all the doctor's appointments and both relax a bit.
Hope Kodi is doing well during all of the recent episodes you are going through. It can only get better from here.


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Sorry about your pony, Karen. One of our girls is battling chronic Lyme, having been misdiagnosed 17 years ago, so I know what it can cause. Hope your pony has good results with the Doxy.
Glad to hear that Dave is on the mend. Maybe one of these days you can stop all the doctor's appointments and both relax a bit.
Hope Kodi is doing well during all of the recent episodes you are going through. It can only get better from here.
Thanks, Mary. Horses, like dogs, seem to recover more quickly (and more completely) than humans do from Lyme. So I have every hope that he will be fine. (and I should explain that I call him my "pony" the way I call Kodi my "puppy"... neither is accurate, he's actually a 16.1h horse. )

Kodi's training has gotten rusty, I'm afraid. We did "OK" when we finally got back to our obedience class last Monday. Since I had the time this afternoon, I snuck in a private lesson, and he was MUCH better. I think he just needs a little "tuning up"

Dave is raring to go back to work, (which is a good thing!) but I think he's going to find that he gets pretty tired when he does!


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Thanks, Mary. Horses, like dogs, seem to recover more quickly (and more completely) than humans do from Lyme. So I have every hope that he will be fine. (and I should explain that I call him my "pony" the way I call Kodi my "puppy"... neither is accurate, he's actually a 16.1h horse. )

Kodi's training has gotten rusty, I'm afraid. We did "OK" when we finally got back to our obedience class last Monday. Since I had the time this afternoon, I snuck in a private lesson, and he was MUCH better. I think he just needs a little "tuning up"

Dave is raring to go back to work, (which is a good thing!) but I think he's going to find that he gets pretty tired when he does!
Thanks for clarifying the pony vs horse thing. I know you have a horse, but thought you might have a pony too.

Glad to hear that Dave is raring to go back to work as that's a sign that he's feeling better.

And, Kodi, not to worry, you know he'll bounce right back when things settle down and you two get back in the swing.


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