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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-13-2007, 09:23 PM Thread Starter
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Gracie's Biting Punctured Daughters Hand - HELP

I know there are threads on biting, and great tips on how to stop it. But what should I do? Gracie bit my daughters hand and it actually punctured the skin. Should I take her to the doctor because of diseases she can get from her? Gracie is only 11 weeks and is developing a bad habit of biting. She was nipping my sons ankles to the point of much pain, and now my daughters finger. We don't tolerate it and try to give her some sort of chew toy to distract her. But she is furiously chewing on EVERYTHING!! Right now my main concern is my daughter - does anyone have answers?

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Hi Karen,

What triggered the bite on the finger? Puppy teeth are pretty sharp.. soo.. hmmmm..

Hope your daughter is ok!

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Karen,
You are right....you really need to stop the nipping and now biting. With Izzy, I would put my hand out for her to have the opportunity to bite and when she would try, I would scould her with a loud sound like (I don't know how to describe it, but it's kind of a hiss with a T on the end) and I would keep my hand there because she would lick after the sound and I would praise her for that action. This worked really well for me and she never became a biter. My daugter gave her dog a toy for her mouth as she was very mouthy and when they played. I like my way better as she learned not to use her mouth and teeth on people. Everyone in the family needs to work on it, so if your children are small, they may have trouble keeping there hand "available", but if they pull back, then that's what Gracie is going to keep going after....the moving hand. Someone else might have help for the nipping of the ankles...I'm not sure on that one..

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Ryan - My daughter was kneeling down playing with her, and Gracie has it in her head that it is OK to bite people. We need to convey this in a way that she will understand, but I don't think our approach is working. She is clearly teething or something - it was not done out of defense or aggression. My daughter is 8, and knows pretty well how to play and not irritate her. She nips/bites even when we have a toy in our hand. She does it really to everyone in the family. (It was more on the knuckle.)

Is rabies a concern with little puppies who haven't even been exposed to the public doggie world?

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Dog bites aren't nearly as bad as cat bites. With a cat puncture, you do need to see your doctor right away, but you may want to call for medical advice to ease your mind.

Here are a couple of past topics on biting:
Biting

Biting when playing

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Puppy bit friend (protective/territorial bite)
Since I'm not sure of what triggered the biting, I thought I'd like these older topics for you to see what has been suggested in the past.
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I always would tap my boys on the nose, when they nipped like that...not hard, just a little tap...they don't like it so they stopped..

I also read where you can put peanut butter on you hand and let them lick it off to teach them to be gentle..

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Oh, I see you've posted while I was looking up those former topics.

Puppies play with their mouths. That's how they played with their littermates and their mother. When it is too harsh, the siblings would yelp to let the biting puppy it is too much. It is very normal, but you do need to teach her to stop. You can "yelp" an "OUCH!" in a high pitch voice and watch the puppy stop. It will be harder to teach the children, but they will catch on too.

There are a lot of suggestions in those first three topics I linked for you. That last one doesn't really pertain to your situation.
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Thanks Judy! I'm thinking your advise is great. We probably "encourage" her to do it without realizing it. Gracie gets in her play stance and so do we - with our hands out in front. She probably sees them as fair game to nip. I think we will stop that and I will offer my hand waiting for a nip so I can correct. I like idea. I will try it right away. We have been saying "Nahhhh" in a sort of "growly" way, but that is not working right now. I'm willing to try anything.

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Brutus was a nipper when her got very excited. We made a point of always having a soft toy to put in his mouth when we played with him. Now at 10 months old, and for the last several months, he grabs a toy when we come home from work, because he is so excited.
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Cheryl, Kimberly & Paige - Thanks for the great ideas. I think I will be able to get my kids on board. They are 8 & 10. I think we begin with the "Ouch" idea. The light thump on the nose really doesn't work with her - we've tried it. I believe she thinks it is just more reason to "play".

Kimberly - Thanks for the links to biting. I will look into them a little more. I tried to do brief research earlier before I started this thread and didn't see any reference to puncturing skin. I was desperate for help.

Thanks so much. I have a call into Ask-A-Nurse. I will let you know what they say about where I go from here with my daughter.

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