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Why do havanese cost so much? I know there are reasons for it like vet cost and other things that the breeder must pay for, but really is it that expensive to have a litter of puppies? I have done tons of reading and would love to have a havanese but $1500-$2000 per dog? At that cost we will never get a dog, not any breed. I don't work, never have honestly. My husband is the only one who works, plus we have 3 kids to provide for then our other bills. We both are a bit discouraged about the prices, that I have seen in the Atlanta area, where we live. It is heartbreaking to me to read alot of nice things and then see the prices! I am sure it is not a nice thing for my husband to have to do, keep saying no to me. I am 27 years old and I have wanted a dog of my own since I was about 6 or 7 years old. I asked every stinking year in my letter to santa to please bring me a dog. I didn't even care if it wasn't at christmas! I was hoping to get one for christmas this year or after the first of the year, but nope. I am now looking into cheaper dogs. Sorry if I offended anyone, for going on and on and for not understanding....

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Alicia, I have to say that if you can't afford a Havanese then the best thing to do will be to get a rescue. I would think that's your best choice. In addition, it's expensive just to have a dog. In the 3-4 months that I have had Kubrick, I have spent at the very least $2500 on him on top of what I spent to get him. Vet bills, beds, pee pads, leashes, toys, food, shampoo, grooming supplies (and that's because I do his grooming on my own - if you want someone else to do it it's a lot more expensive). It gets EXPENSIVE! I'm not trying to be mean, but if you can't afford a high maintenance dog, then you should look into another breed. Perhaps others here have a different opinion, but that's just what I think.

Also, it really is very expensive to keep a litter of puppies. You are not only caring for the puppies themselves, but also for the mother of the puppies. Yes there are breeders out there that use the large amount of that money for themselves but if you get a good ethical breeder, a lot of that money goes into socializing and properly caring for the pups. The time that it takes is also valuable... anyone who has gotten a puppy can tell you the amount of time and patience that it takes to raise them. I can't even imagine having a whole litter in your hands and dealing with potty training and all of that at such a young age.

I'm sure others here have better reasons, but that's how I see it.


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Alicia, I certainly understand your issues - and I dont think you are offending anyone, I agree it is a costly venture, but I can say that I would imagine (as I am not a breeder) that between the costs of medical testing for the parents, fees to be registered, the possible need for vet intervention at delivery, the pee pee pads, food, initial vet bills and vaccinations and dewormings of the ENTIRE litter. That a breeder doesnt walk away with a whole lot of $. Again, that is just my opinion. Have you looked in to Rescue? look up Havanese Rescue - go to Petfinder.com You may find the perfect match for your lovely family, at a reasonable price. I hope that you are successful as this is such a wonderful breed, but your situation is certainly understandable.
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Alicia,
You will find that Havanese are not unique in the pricing for a puppy. Many purebred dogs that come from good, ethical breeders, charge over $1500 for a puppy, no matter what the breed. My son just got an English Bulldog and paid $1800 for it. A Lab breeder I know charges $1600 for a pet Lab. A Doberman breeder I know charges $2400 for a pet. A Yorkie breeder I know charges $2500 for a pet.

It is like anything else in life really. If it is something one wants bad enough, we save for it. No different then a person wanting a particular type of car over another. If one decides they want a Lexus over a Chevy, they save for it or money isn't an issue for them.

It isn't cheap breeder good, healthy puppies and standing behind what you breed. There are many bad breeders out there, so the price isn't the issue to me, it is more what the breeder is doing and if that breeder stands behind the puppies they produce.

I assume by your age that your children are young. Maybe you could make it a family affair and have everyone start saving for a family dog. It teaches children responsibility and gets everyone involved in the idea of getting the dog they all want so badly.

Hope this helps some,
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I am wary of rescues because of the temperment/backround of the dog. But that is something I will look into. Could I get a dog from rescue with 3 kids? ages 6, 5 and 1 year. I stay at home so care of the dog wouldn't be a problem.
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I am wary of rescues because of the temperment/backround of the dog. But that is something I will look into. Could I get a dog from rescue with 3 kids? ages 6, 5 and 1 year. I stay at home so care of the dog wouldn't be a problem.
Typically no, your children are too young for most rescues I think. Also, any animal you get as a pet, will cost you money. The food, vet bills can be very, very high these days, grooming, etc.
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I am not sure if you can get a rescue with kids, but I do know that there are a lot of people here with rescues and they are wonderful dogs. Especially if you get a puppy rescue. They're harder to come by, though. Shannon's Jax was a rescue pup, I'm sure you can ask her about him if you'd like.


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I think it would depend on the adoption center. Some have more strict rules than others. I can say that the recent raiding of the puppy mill in Va opened up tons of puppys on the east coast. The NY Animal Shore League took over 120 of the dogs, and as of I believe yesterday, almost ALL have been adopted. They are out there, you just need to look. I just rescued a wonderful little Maltese boy, and he is doing fabulously in his new home. It was a few days of training, and he is fine.

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Alicia~

It sounds like you are really down. Your kids are the most important! You definitely need to provide for them first. Don't put yourself or your family in hardship for a dog - totally NOT worth it!!! Even though - I absolutely love my dogs. Have you tried the rescues? Also, if you would like another avenue. . . I know there are a few breeders that don't do any testing. (I'm definitely NOT saying this is the way to go) I don't really encourage it because if you have never had a dog - trust me - you need one without health problems. The testing can help you avoid buying a dog that may have problems in the future. I've had dogs with health problems in the past and you may end up with a dog that would cost you SO much more in the long run. Also - you might do research on adopting a slightly older pup that the breeder kept in hopes for showing or breeding that didn't work out for whatever reason. They would still be wonderful pups.

Though, I can't stress enough - dogs are expensive and you need to be prepared for the financial strain if you are crunching numbers. I am a lover of Dave Ramsey check him out at daveramsey.com. He has a wonderful plan that can help you if necessary. He's like Dr. Phil of the financial world. I'm not trying to imply that debt is an issue, but it is of many, many Americans and once it did get us over barrel. I hope that it will work out for you to get a little dog someday. Good luck - chin up! The timing just may not be right.

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Kathy, I so agree with you, which is why I put down how much money I've spent on Kubrick so far. And I do think that's an underestimate. I just spent $591 on Kubrick's neuter so I'm sure I've spent more $$ than I would like to think about.


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