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neutered dog's still do it

Maddie grew up with my sisters dog Carter. They have even lived in the same house for awhile. I have always just let them play together. I live very close to her she has a huge yard and all the dogs are allowed to just run around and play. I was out with them helping my sister plant some flowers when I heard Maddie crying. Carter was dragging her across the grass. I stopped him but didn't know what to do. I was so freaked out. I'm sure we did everything wrong. Gail said let him go and I said no way he's dragging her. I said I thought he was fixed! She said he is. Well she held onto him and pulled them apart. Maddie acted really strange for about ten minutes. What was really strange Zoey got aggressive with Maddie and was growling at her . I don't understand that?
After the fact I looked up online and found that it is common for a fixed male to still have the desire and capability to mate. And maybe a hose would have been a better way to separate them. I have to watch for infection with her and he could have been injured with the way we separated them. He's fine she's fine . No more playing at my sisters for a few weeks.
FYI I am going to get her spayed I want to do the laser surgery.

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It's very traumatizing to see dogs fight. I'm sorry that happened to you.

I wouldn't let them near each other again, period. not worth it.

who's Zoey? and what kind of dog is Carter? fixed only helps if you fix them before they the boys get their first flush of testosterone.
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She's in heat. It's going to happen whether the boy is intact or not. In this situation, do NOT pull them apart. Hold them so they don't do any pulling.

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Tom - maybe it would be helpful to explain about dogs, and not pulling them apart if they are ah hem, occupied. I know it's common knowledge for breeders, but most folks I know don't know about the difference with dogs.
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It's very traumatizing to see dogs fight. I'm sorry that happened to you.

I wouldn't let them near each other again, period. not worth it.

who's Zoey? and what kind of dog is Carter? fixed only helps if you fix them before they the boys get their first flush of testosterone.
Zoey is my black and white Havanese. Carter is an American Eskimo. They were not fighting.
Tom do you know why Zoey got so mean towards Maddie? She was growling at her.

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http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/breedingtie.htm The growling could have been for several different reasons-nothing to worry about in this situation.
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It's very traumatizing to see dogs fight. I'm sorry that happened to you.

I wouldn't let them near each other again, period. not worth it.

who's Zoey? and what kind of dog is Carter? fixed only helps if you fix them before they the boys get their first flush of testosterone.
The dogs weren't fighting, they were having a grand old time. The problem happened when the people tried to separate them.


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She's in heat. It's going to happen whether the boy is intact or not. In this situation, do NOT pull them apart. Hold them so they don't do any pulling.
That's what I was afraid of, Tom, and the fact that she just spent a long time, out of the house unsupervised, has me worried. Is there such a thing as a "morning after" drug for dogs if Suzi takes her to the vet? I'm worried that an intact male could very well have gotten at her while she was out and about.


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That's what I was afraid of, Tom, and the fact that she just spent a long time, out of the house unsupervised, has me worried. Is there such a thing as a "morning after" drug for dogs if Suzi takes her to the vet? I'm worried that an intact male could very well have gotten at her while she was out and about.
Karen, the way I read it was that Maddie was the one who was 'with Carter', the neutered male, and Zoey is the one who got away for some unsupervised time. I would still be concerned though because I thought I had read somewhere that females in the same household sometimes go through heat cycles at the same time?

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The dogs weren't fighting, they were having a grand old time. The problem happened when the people tried to separate them.
the word 'dragging' made me think of aggression not procreating, lol. I'm happy to say I've never seen dogs having a 'grand ol' time.'

there should be a morning after pill.
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