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I'm hoping to get some answers, advice from some of you all that have been Havanese owners for a while or have had a similar experience.

I purchased my pup on June 1, 2013 and I felt like I did my homework but now I'm really doubting myself!! When I got my pup home I noticed she was itching herself very bad and I became concerned. This went on for a day or so and I contacted the breeder and she told me that a flea could have gotten on her. Well after a couple of days it got worse and I took her to the Vet and learned she had a bacteria infection!!!!! I was very upset and contacted the breeder and she acted like she was in shock of this news. I asked that she pay my Vet bill & she did. My pup was put on an antibiotic for two weeks twice a day and Benadryl every 8 - 10!hours. I noticed after a week she was not getting better & she was itching worse - called the vet & they said to give medicine full two weeks. I have done that my baby is still itching!! The vet did a fungal test it came back negative so now the vet thinks pup has allergies & she told me to switch her food to Royal Canin hypoallergenic dog food for 6 weeks to see if this will help with itching. If this doesn't help more testing to be done!! Friday we went in for 16 week shots and the vet see's how miserable my baby is scratching so she thinks it may be yeast - suggested I do another antibiotic for a week. On top of this she found an infection in her ear which may look like allergies. I'm very upset about all of this.... when I leave the Vet I contact the breeder - her response was I could exchange her for a "non itchy dog". I was very offended bc this pup has been with me for a month & I'm attached to her and I just can't "exchange her" as if she was a piece of clothing. I feel at this point the breeder needs to refund my money bc it seems I don't have a healthy pup!! So upset - Does anyone have advice or similar experience?
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I'm sorry you are going through this but just because your dog has allergies does not necessarily mean the breeder is a bad one. I feel you are over reacting a bit.

Maybe this is a reaction to frontline or vaccines??? My dogs got very itchy after I put K-9 advantix on them. No medicine helped. It took 6 weeks until the stuff was out of their system to stop the itching. Food could also be it and maybe chemicals on your grass....

I hope you get to the bottom of this!

I don't mean to sound insensitive, but I had a pup who had a liver shunt, another with cherry eye, and yet another with luxating patellas. So an itchy dog doesn't mean you should get your money back. My boy with the bad knees and the one with cherry eye came from good breeders so stuff does happen...






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I'm so sorry you are going through all of this, BUT I agree that it isn't exactly your breeders "fault" your dog is itchy AND from what you ahve said, it seems she is doing more than most breeders would, with helping to pay bills and offering an "exchange" the reality is, you HAVE only had her for a month. So, if this is something that is overwhelming for you to deal with, maybe you should give her offer a second thought.
My hav had sores all over her head and chest when she was about 9 months old. Never even crossed my mind to contact her breeder. She had extensive testing done, was put on antibiotics, and had a full allergy panel done. She has a boat load of food allergies. Chicken, turkey, carrots, apples, seafood, potatoes. you name it, she is probably allergic to it. While concerning at first, we have learned how to deal with it and get her healthy and keep her that way. But it did take awhile and a lot of perseverance...
wish I could help more, but it really sounds like your breeder is trying to help you as best she can... so you should be very thankful for that.

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Gosh I disagree with both of you!!! I found some very negative information on this breeder yesterday so that's what prompted me to reach out to some of you.
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Hi,
I understand that you are attached to your pup. I also became very attached to Bear very quickly. I think that you may need to make your mind up one way or another though. Give it a lot of thought so you can make peace with your decision but you need to decide that you will either stand by this pup and take care of her medical needs or "exchange" her. It's a shame that you found this information out about the breeder after you got her.....but what's done is done. I do think that the breeder offering to help pay was nice....at least it offset some of the initial bills.
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Sorry, I think you've gotten some good feedback and alternative perspective regarding your situation. A top notch breeder can occasionally produce an unhealthy dog, and a backyard breeder can produce (much more by chance than careful planning) healthy dogs. It's just the nature of breeding, despite everything a breeder can do, they don't have 100% control of the outcomes, only nature does. I have seen people swear up and down that their dog from such and such questionable breeder was healthy and happy. Just because a dog is healthy or not doesn't necessarily correlate with the quality of the breeder, only that the chances of health or sickness relates to the breeder. I also think your breeder is doing more than many would, consider yourself lucky that you got a response, let alone that she paid the vet bill. Sorry it turns out you came across some bad stuff on your breeder, but there are unreasonable people that post bad reviews on people, when some times there is more to the story. And in my opinion, it is a reasonable and standard thing for the breeder to offer to exchange the dog. Your dog is still alive, and unless your immediate vet bills are as much or more than the cost of your dog, I don't think she should have to refund the full purchase price as it is not equal.
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I'm curious atsilvers27 - how much did you pay for your havanese??
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I'm not going to say how much exactly, but I bought her with full registration and pick of litter. I've also had to spend money for the plain ticket to fly down to FL to pick her up, and for classes to train her for showing. I also didn't know as much back then about her breeder, genetics, her pedigree and conformation as I do now, I later found out about her high breeding coefficient and, although she is very beautiful, she is shy/leash aggressive around dogs (making her very difficult for me as a novice to show) and she has some minor show conformation faults that I did not expect her to have considering how much I paid for her and her pedigree. I have learned to let myself learn from whatever happens and move forward with life.
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Dogs with full registration and top pedigrees typically go for $2000+. On a spay/neuter contract the average seems to be $1500-$2000, but as for anything, depending on local economy and competition prices can be less than or more than the average.
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Thank you I was just curious. On my paper work my pups Father AKC number was on there but Mother's was not. Is that typical or normal?
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