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Why do some breeders force you to buy Life Abundance Food? If you don't they do not guarantee the health of the puppy. Any answers are very much appreciated.
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Why do some breeders force you to buy Life Abundance Food? If you don't they do not guarantee the health of the puppy. Any answers are very much appreciated.
Marketing scam. There is no one food that is best for every dog.


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Based on the website, it looks like people partner with them as a home business, like Mary Kay or Stella and Dot. If a breeder is a rep, it makes sense that they'd want you to buy food from them to support their business. I'd personally avoid any breeder who tried to hook me on food or nutritional supplements. Even if the breeder doesn't have a financial interest, requiring a particular food brand is too controlling for my tastes.


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Thanks, Karen and Routine Avocado..I know it is heart breaking to me, because there are not many good breeders in my area, and 2 of them have this in their contract that the pups have to be on this food. What if the dog is allergic to chicken,.. Yes they do get some sort of kick back from it. To be honest when the day comes that I will get a fur baby I will feed it Fromm's, Wellness or home cook a diet from Sabine, like I did before. I am not trying to stir a controversy, I just wanted to know what some of the folks here who are more seasoned thought of this concept. I will keep looking for different breeders.
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Thanks, Karen and Routine Avocado..I know it is heart breaking to me, because there are not many good breeders in my area, and 2 of them have this in their contract that the pups have to be on this food. What if the dog is allergic to chicken,.. Yes they do get some sort of kick back from it. To be honest when the day comes that I will get a fur baby I will feed it Fromm's, Wellness or home cook a diet from Sabine, like I did before. I am not trying to stir a controversy, I just wanted to know what some of the folks here who are more seasoned thought of this concept. I will keep looking for different breeders.
Have you checked out www.havanesehouse.com? If you go to 'About us and Info' they are in MI and say they are reputable. Looks like a good breeder.


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Thanks Ruth. I am in the beginning stages, although I have researched the breed, requirements, temperment etc, and actually have been on this website for quite a few months and looked at most breeders websites. It gives me pause when I see something like this, and did not know if it was the norm or if it was a red flag. thanks for your help,
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Thanks Ruth. I am in the beginning stages, although I have researched the breed, requirements, temperment etc, and actually have been on this website for quite a few months and looked at most breeders websites. It gives me pause when I see something like this, and did not know if it was the norm or if it was a red flag. thanks for your help,
I think it's the exception rather than the norm. I don't think you could call it a "red flag", really, as it doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the dogs they are breeding. But it's not something I would want to be bound by.

That said, the contract I signed for my puppy required me to use a specific heartworm med. This was because my breeder had had a very bad experience with another heartworm med. Well, that particular med (Interceptor) is now not being made. I called her up, we discussed it, and I have changed to a different brand. (not the one she had trouble with, of course!) I suspect that ANY good breeder would work with you to find a food that would keep your dog healthy, if they developed a food allergy to whatever they were currently eating. In any case, it would be something you would need to discuss with the breeder.


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Thanks Karen, that explanation helps alot!
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I have a friend who's obessive about his shelties and feeds his dogs. He is also a breeder who helped me find Henry when I told him I wanted a havanese. This is what I had Henry on as a pup - thrived on it - and now recently switched back. Too many recalls going on in the market.
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Why do some breeders force you to buy Life Abundance Food? If you don't they do not guarantee the health of the puppy. Any answers are very much appreciated.
I understand the "requirement" if she is getting a kickback from the company, but to go as far as to state that she won't guarantee the health of the puppy if you don't use her brand is a "red flag" to me and someone I would run from.

Good luck in your search and remember that you may have to travel a bit to get a quality bred pup from a reputable breeder.


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