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Is this the breed for me?

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My 10-year old daughter has been wanting a puppy of her own for a very long time. Her father and I have only her, and a 17-year old Jack Russell Terrier. He's a very kind dog, enjoying his golden years by sleeping quite a bit, and taking one mile walks with me daily, where he sees his dog friends. Our vet thinks that as long as we give him a place to "escape" from a puppy as needed, he should do well with a new addition.

I've been doing a lot of research, and I think the Havanese would fit my daughters desire for a fluffy toy companion. I have a breeder about an hour from home that has six-week old puppies right now. My questions are:
1. If I wait to take the puppy home until Christmas (when it is 4-months old) - is that too late in terms of socialization to my other dog? They have both parents on site, as well as several pups, and also own a nursing home (they bring the dogs in to visit the residents) - so I k now it will get enough socialization with others....does it need to be this specific dog though?
2. Will it still "look" like a puppy at 4 months old?
3. How much barking can I realistically expect? I work from home, so I'll be here with it all day....but I do need to take phone calls quite often and a yapping dog in the background could be frowned upon.
4. The breeder shows his Havanese and put the bug in my ear about my daughter doing junior handling shows....is this something that anyone's children have experience with?

Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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So many questions!

1. Everyone will tell you Christmas is a horrible time of the time to introduce a puppy into the family. Stresses are high. People are psychotic. Things aren't normal. I would get the puppy as soon as it is available.

2. see above. However, it will still look like a puppy but why wait?

3. Havanese aren't really barkers unless there is something to bark at - doorbell, dog outside, normal stuff. You just acknowledge that, yes, they did their job. They stop. You can train them not to reaction.

4. egads... no idea. I know there are classes to teach kids handling skills.

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Christmas is a stressful time to get a puppy, it can still be a christmas gift, but be given a month early.

My hav isn't a big barker, but all dogs are different.

Doing "junior handling" or any sort of obedience or dog sport would be an awesome way for your daughter to bond with the dog in a positive way! Maybe go watch a dog show and see if your daughter is interested.


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Thank you both! I know, Christmas is probably not ideal....but, if we are spending that much money on a dog it really will be one of VERY few gifts she will get for Christmas! But you have given me some food for thought....
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Yeah, winter isn't an ideal time for getting a new puppy. At four months old my puppy still looked pretty young and "puppyish". When it comes to barking, they will only usually bark at expected times like the someone rings the doorbell or another dog cars (sometimes) but not excessively. But every puppy is different so some or quiet and some are loud. Last question, no preference. Congratulations on your new puppy and welcome!


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Please please do not wait that long! I found that puppies bond with their forever "parents" between 8 and 14 weeks! I would hate to think that the puppy would form a bond with its breeder and then be moved to you and need to start over!
#2 = it will look like a 4 month old havanese puppy! It will be much bigger than a puppy/puppy but if the breeder cares for it's coat, it will still have longer hair. But if not, than it might have a shortie haircut.
3. My dogs do not normally bark unless there is something to bark at. That could be the doorbell, someone on the property, another dog walking down the street (200 yds away and they KNOW they are there even though they cannot see them), a squirrel in the yard. But.. all in all, they are quiet. I too work from home, and find it not to be that bad.
4. It would be a great opportunity for your daughter to show/do agility etc. But.. it takes time and money. It would depend on how much free time your daughter has, and the cost of training, classes, entrys etc.

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If you do decide to wait then you should really have a detailed discussion with the breeder about what approach they will take to socialisation and potty training because it will be much more difficulty to undo anything they learn in those critical development weeks.
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If you do decide to wait then you should really have a detailed discussion with the breeder about what approach they will take to socialisation and potty training because it will be much more difficulty to undo anything they learn in those critical development weeks.
This is what I was going to say, too. Also if you start doing research you might find another breeder who is having a litter close(r) to Christmas or even a little after (you could take her to see the puppies or something the next day?).

I can see rescuing or taking in an older dog but getting an older puppy (and paying that much for it) might not be the best idea.

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Thank you both! I know, Christmas is probably not ideal....but, if we are spending that much money on a dog it really will be one of VERY few gifts she will get for Christmas! But you have given me some food for thought....
Getting a puppy at Christmas is a bad, bad BAD idea!!! I would explain that to to your daughter. Certainly at 10, she should be able to understand, that the puppy will BE her main Christmas present, but it is best for the puppy to get him or her when the PUPPY is ready, and not at Christmas. Better to get an early Christmas present than to wait for a promised puppy from a later litter! For Christmas, itself, you can give her things like a pretty harness and leash, or other fun accessories. (there are LOTS needed during the first year!!!)

As others have said, you will miss out on socializing and bonding with the puppy appropriately by waiting till 4 months. It will also be a very late start on puppy kindergarten, which is vitally important. It will also, potentially, make potty training a lot harder, depending on what the breeder does in the mean time.

Havanese are probably one of the quietest, best-tempered of the small breeds, but ALL puppies do some barking. They need to be taught when it is appropriate and when to stop. If you lived through a JRT as a puppy, (even if it was long ago!) you will have NO problem with a Havanese puppy!

I think Jr. handling is a WONDERFUL way for your daughter to enjoy structured training time with her pup, especially if the breeder is willing to mentor her!


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http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/showdogs/handlingjr.htm

here is some jr. handling info... the writer's daughter Emily went on to show the BOB at westminster in 2012! http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/h/havanesephotos15.htm
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