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Housebreaking question from a new Havanese owner

Hello, everyone. I'm new to the forum as a registered member, but I've been reading your posts for several weeks. Thank you. I've already learned so much.
My husband and I welcomed Quincy into our home 10 days ago when he was 10 weeks old. He's adorable, of course, and, except for the first night, has been sleeping 8-10 hours at night without waking, which we are so thankful for. I'm doing what I think are all the right things for housebreaking and am watching him like a hawk. He has never soiled his crate and has not had one "poop" accident in the house, but we are having more trouble with the "potty" issue. He doesn't give us any visible cues that he needs to go, so when he is up and active, we are taking him out every 15 minutes. He always goes right away when we take him out, but he's had an accident or two almost every day if we don't take him out as frequently. I know that small dogs have small bladders, but I know that he can hold it for 10 hours at night, so it seems that he should be able to hold it for an hour during the day. Our vet said he was in perfect health. Hope it gets better soon. It's been so stressful to be on edge, just waiting for him to start to squat. I guess I'm just looking for reassurance that it will get better and hoping to get any little tidbits of wisdom.
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Hi there, and welcome! There are many people on here who are more expert than I, and who I know will be happy to offer you specific advice on your situation. For now, as someone who was a brand new and fumbling Havanese owner just over a year ago, I just wanted to offer you some encouragement. Just earlier today I was thinking how far we have come, my dog Benjamin and I, in terms of potty training. I think he was a rather slow learner in that regard, and I remember that when he was 4 or 5 months old, there was a point when I was resigned to the idea that he might not be reliable until he was 2 or 3 (years) old. Like your dog, a lot of the time he didn't seem to be giving me any signals, or at least I was not reading them. Now, at a year and a half, we have it down! He is trained to go both indoors and outdoors, and though he would prefer to go outside, sometimes when it is cold and dark I do not feel like taking him. (I do not have a fenced yard, so have to put on warm clothes, get the flashlight, get the leash, etc.) Just last night, he gave me "the look" indicating he had to go, and I said, "Aww, I'm tired buddy, go on the potty pad", and he did, just like that. Good boy! It took me a really long time to be able to read his signals, and believe me I know how stressful it is at first, but don't worry, you'll get it! Also, there are many people on here who are extremely helpful and knowledgeable, not to mention generous with sharing what they know, so ask away!


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Same encouragement from me. I too thought we were destined just to live with floor puddles for a long time - he didn't seem to get it and nor did he give any hint or any pattern - just peeing wherever and whenever.

Then all of a sudden at about 6 months of age it changed and he started going to the door and laying next to it. A month ago we fitted a pet flap and within a week he was happily taking himself out to toilet - we haven't had an indoor puddle since.

So don't despair, you're in good company and it does get better.
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I am certainly no expert as Colbie is only 12 weeks, about the same age as your Quincy, but I wouldn't worry about the frequency of the urination. She holds it all night when in her crate (anywhere from 7 - 9 hours depending on our schedule that day) but during the day she is erratic. She can go pee 3 times in an hour, then not go for 2-3 hours in a row.
We had her 100% pad trained in a few days, now she poops off the mat more then half the time.
Life is unpredictable and so are baby havanese

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We have two puppies now. The older one (almost 7 months) is fully litter box trained which is great, but the other one wants nothing to do with that. Our "boy" is 4 1/2 months and is being crate trained. He is really doing well with it now. The first few weeks, I definitely had to take him out every 10-15 minutes. He would play so much with the other puppy that he had to go often. He also has always slept through the night no problem in his crate. Now I only take him out every 30-60 minutes, depending on how much playing is going on. He still doesn't go to the door to tell me, but if I don't see the signs - he'll pee in front of the door.

I also found that he is much quicker if I leash him and take him out, versus putting him out in the yard (it's fenced) or putting him in a little X-pen outside. I started the leash when it was raining, and he learned to go quickly. We got him doing his business on a grass pet mat on the porch if it rains.

Just hang in there It definitely gets easier!






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Sounds like your doing the right things. It just takes consistency and lots or praise when your baby goes out side really make it a celebration with treats and excitement. I would recommend researching a good carpet cleaner. I had read that vinegar and hydrogen peroxide after the piddle really helps take the odor away.I'm convinced that mine have accidents because they can smell the sent on the carpet .

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Thank you all so much for your reassurance. As you know, it's hard at first when you're spending so much time and energy on one little puppy and you're not 100% sure that anything you're doing is sinking in. I feel better knowing that Quincy is not unusual because he wants to potty every 10-15 minutes when he's out of his crate. I'm not working right now, so I really haven't been crating him much during the day and have been hovering over him most of the time, which is exhausting. I think I might crate him a tad more just to give myself a break.
Our previous dogs were dachshunds and beagles, and I remember that they could wait 30-60 minutes at Quincy's age. However--WOW!--this Havanese puppy is so much smarter than they were in other ways. Kind of amazing!
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Thank you all so much for your reassurance. As you know, it's hard at first when you're spending so much time and energy on one little puppy and you're not 100% sure that anything you're doing is sinking in. I feel better knowing that Quincy is not unusual because he wants to potty every 10-15 minutes when he's out of his crate. I'm not working right now, so I really haven't been crating him much during the day and have been hovering over him most of the time, which is exhausting. I think I might crate him a tad more just to give myself a break.
Our previous dogs were dachshunds and beagles, and I remember that they could wait 30-60 minutes at Quincy's age. However--WOW!--this Havanese puppy is so much smarter than they were in other ways. Kind of amazing!
Thank you for reminding me that I need to give myself a break! I, too, feeling like I have to hover over Ludo but by the same token have been letting him just roam around and run the show. Into the pen he goes!

Hang in there. I feel like it's one step forward and two back sometimes but like you I continue to be amazed and in love!

Traci & Ludo

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I too have had many dogs over my lifetime and Leo, our Hav, did need to pee much more frequently as a little pup. I noticed a bit more control at around 6 months and now at 8 months he can go 3.5 to 4 hours between trips outside during the day though he gets more than that in the early morning and the evening. I think the reason they need to go more during the day is that they are awake more and are active. I think dogs metabolism slows overnight which might be true of many mammals. Watch your puppy very closely when not confined and you'll soon be able to read his/her very subtle "tells" that a potty trip is needed. It is completely ok to confine your pup when you need to do something else or just need a break from the intense supervision.


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Welcome!

Ditto to many of the comments above! My guy is almost 1 and I was as diligent as you are and he has been great from 5 months on! It will happen!

Crating is a good idea to give some "down time" for you both but also be sure he is in an expen or limited area of the house during his awake time. I found that as long as my guy was in "his space" when I couldn't watch him like a hawk he was good. Depending on your house layout, use baby gates or expens to make things easier! You're doing great! Any pics of your little one????
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