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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 01-27-2007, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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Question Importing dogs

I was wondering if anyone has bought a Havanese dog from Hungary? I would love to hear from someone who knows about breeders in Hungray. Why do our breeders here import dogs from Hungary?
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As in this country, there are good and bad breeders in Hungary too. Many dogs in pet stores come from Hungary. There are good breeders in Hungary too. Sometimes breeders here are importing to get new "blood" in their lines. Like the Cuban lines. Here in the U.S. we can't import from Cuba, but in Hungary they can.
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I have also heard but how true I am not sure. AKC is not excepting the imported dogs so you can not reg . threw AKC has any one herd of this ?
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The AKC does register these dogs, if you go to the AKC site they have a page on registry services for imported dogs.
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The only reason why I ask I know of a breeder that is or was saling some nice puppys that just found out that they where not going to let people reg imported dogs to the AKC its something that just started or getting ready to start. I will ask the breeder that told me this.He is a known breeder . The puppys that he had he was planing on showing them but he said he cant not since AKC will not let him reg, out of country dogs.
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Importing dogs

Who is importing them? Most of the dogs from Hungary are coming in at auction and being sold to the puppy mills. I think an occasional breeder may import a dog (I have one from Germany and one from England) but only to expand our lines a little. I don't think there is much health testing going on in Hungary and the bulk of the dogs are going to backyard breeders, brokers and mills. The auctions are bringing them in by the cart load. My imports are AKC registered but it involves a little more paperwork. At AKC it is all about the Stud Book and many imports cannot be proven to be Havanese. Hence AKC won't register them. Russia does not recognise the Havanese but I have heard of Russian Havanese imports. So how would you know??????

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Hi
I just recently meet someone who had bought a dog from Hungary and to me it seemed like they thought it was quite a kudo .. Like this particular dog came from royalty and mine was of the Heinz variety ..Her Daddy really puffed out his chest when he told me about her .. . I did not know anything about them coming from there but just said Congratulations. I sure she is a wonderful dog ..
I do know there are breeders in the Netherlands and their dogs are well respected . The dogs are larger than the ones here in the states . Some of them weigh up to 22 pounds ..
I have a friend who lives in the Netherlands and at one point I was thinking of going there to get a dog ..
I am curious if Canadian Breeders can buy dogs from Cuba . Just curious ..
The good news so far and I am just asking you breeders who log on because you are my source of information is that they are not breeding tea cup Havanese and really creating even more problems and another bad reputation for health issues ....
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Don't know anything about Hungary. But FYI I did find Russian Havs that they call Bolanka. I know one breeder that breeds them. They are registered under rare breeds and need to get a larger number in US to register with the AKC. Just thought I would share..........Don't know a lot though.

Oops. I meant to say Russian Bolonka which are similar to Havs. They are a separate breed though. Thanks Julia for noticing that.

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I agree with you. I have been to 3 local pet stores and they brag that teir Havs are imported from Hungary. Also, we have a couple of people on Long Island who advertise in the newspaper. When you call them, they will tell you they do not breed, but the puppies are imported.

Can anyone tell me what happens to the dogs that do not sell at a pet store? Or don't I want to know??? No one can ever give me an answer.
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Rita,

Actually Havanese and Bolonka are two completely different dogs. The breed is actually called Tsvetnaya Bolonka, which means colored Bolonka. It was developed in St. Petersburg by crossing a Bichon Frise with Shih Tzu. If you want to read more about it, here's the links:
http://www.rarebreed.com/breeds/tb/descrip.html

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