Anyone know this breeder? - Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 12:22 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Beamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada!
Posts: 4,155
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 16 Times in 6 Posts
Anyone know this breeder?

Hello,

I am currently looking for a Havanese and was just wondering if anyone here has heard of or dealt with 'Sineade kennel'? They are located in Ontario Canada, and Florida as well. Ther are listed on the havanesefanciers website as member breeders.

They seem VERY good and reply to all questions very quick and seem to know there stuff. I'm about to put my deposit down, but was just wondering if any of you might know anything. I've been reading this forum and you all seem to have great experience with the everything about the Havanese.

Usually I'm a very trusting person, but its just kind of scary since this is somewhat of a large purchase.. pretty much its like buying a member of your family, so just want to make sure i'm doing the right thing. This is my 1st dog purchase ever!

Thanks all.
Ryan
Beamer is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 07:51 AM
Mom to Princess & Jewels
 
JodiM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 398
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm not familiar with them, but make sure you check out our Breeders forum for info.

Make sure you get PROOF of all health testing done on the parents, and check the numbers at the correct websites.

It's great if their dogs have championships, or points, it means they've meet what the judge's thought was the standard for a Havanese.

Good Luck!

Quick, lets get the treats out of the bag before Mom sees!
JodiM is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 12:22 PM
Samson & Delilah's Mom
 
dboudreau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,683
Submit Photo: 3
Photo Submissions 17 Times in 15 Posts
Some of the dogs in Sam's pedigree come from Sineade. Great dogs. Good luck with your new pup.

"Hav" a Great Day,
Debbie & Sam & Delilah
www.lossombrahavanese.com


"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Suess.
dboudreau is offline  
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Mom to Ricky and Sammy
 
marjrc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,319
Submit Photo: 30
Photo Submissions 21 Times in 17 Posts
I don't know of this breeder. I am in QC. Do they have a website?
It's good to ask all the questions and reassuring that they don't mind answering them. Good luck and let us know how things go!




Hello. My name is marj and I have MHS.




"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mahatma Gandhi

“Come to the edge, he said. They said: We are afraid. Come to the edge, he said. They came. He pushed them and they flew.” -Guillaume Apollinaire"
marjrc is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 06:07 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 0 Times in 0 Posts
Know Anything About This Breeder?

I don't know anything about them, but do know some good ones in CAN if that's what you are looking for.

I always send a long list of references and tons of info about me and my dogs to someone who inquires. Did you get that without asking?

Sydney
[email protected]
wowhavs is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 09:03 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Beamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada!
Posts: 4,155
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 16 Times in 6 Posts
Hav puppy

Well, they did give me a reference and I emailed them and all seems very good. They say that all health tests are done on the parents, but they do not post the results anywhere. But they do have the copies with them for viewing if you pay a visit. They encourage us to come and see the puppy once its born.. The deposit is fully refundable if they do not have the perfect puppy for us. 1 year health guarantee...etc.. etc..

They honestly sound like very nice people.


Ryan
Beamer is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 09:17 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 0 Times in 0 Posts
Most of that sounds OK. I would get more than 1 reference. I have only been breeding for 4 years, and I provide at least a dozen references. I also provide a 5 year health guarantee. Some things can't even be tested until 24 months of age. Ask what they test for and ask for copies of the tests. I don't send mine in either, because there is a fee to do so, but I give hard copies to puppy buyers. I test hearts before I breed, patellas, hips, elbows, and I CERF annually. I require my puppy buyers CERF annually also - through age 8. Ask for test results on patellas, hips, CERF on parents and when last CERF'd.
I've seen some of their dogs in some good pedigrees. BUT, I've been shafted badly by some "reputable" breeders. I know many others who have also.
My health guarantee offers a specific amount of money back or another puppy - buyer's choice. Most breeders offer a "replacement puppy." They do this knowing that once you hold one of these Havanese lovers for 30 seconds, you would fight to your death before giving back, so they never have to honor that guarantee. I know very few breeders who offer less than a 2 year guarantee.
I see some good things and some serious red flags, but more communications and clarification could fix all of that.
Sydney
wowhavs is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 09:23 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm 61 years old and extremely trusting, but in my many years on this planet, I have discovered that the best doctors have great skills and lousy bedside manner; very personable people have to be nice, because they aren't honest and fool you with their "niceness". . . . . I am extremely cautious around very personable people.
Investing in a family member for 15-20 years at a rather hefty chunk of change plus the years of vet care, etc. is about "quality" so you both have a quality 15-20 years of love and laughter. Unfortunately, it's not about being nice, so get ALL of the facts.
Also ask if they have had any dogs with CD or still do; if parents have it, etc. It's a front leg problem. You can go to the OFA site and read about these maladies.
wowhavs is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Beamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada!
Posts: 4,155
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 16 Times in 6 Posts
Hav pup

Hi again,

So you have actually heard of this breeder before? And they do generally have good dogs I'm assuming?

Yes, all those medical check they do.. the CERF every year, they do hips and patellas.

Whats the the dogs come home with: vet check, worming, innoculation record, health guarantee and a copy of the pedigree, and some food that puppy is eating. I also have tips on training, grooming etc.

Should the 1 year health guarantee be questioned? Should I ask for atleats 2yrs?

Thanks!
Ryan
Beamer is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-05-2007, 10:58 PM
Mom to Princess & Jewels
 
JodiM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 398
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 0 Times in 0 Posts
Unless they are really close to your home, I would ask them to email you scan copies of the test results, so you can verify them.

You can not imagine how many people forget to ask for it once their there... or the breeders can't find the documents right then, but they'll send it to you

Quick, lets get the treats out of the bag before Mom sees!
JodiM is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome