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I have a 3-hour drive to my breeders house and I have a Sherpa soft crate or a Car seat to use for the ride home. What would you recommend? I will be using the car seat regularly and would like to be able to use the car seat in passenger seat so I can comfort the pup during the ride. If this is recommended than what harness & size would you recommend for a 10-week old pup? Also, any other recommendations for the ride home?
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I found it very hard to get a harness to fit an 8-10 week old pup. Tim's breeder gave me a harness for him that I'm using for Mae, it has Velcro closures and is still a bit big, I put a fleece jacket under it. I would suggest the Sherpa, that way if you need to close it up you can. Are you going to be traveling alone with the pup? If so, use the Sherpa definitely. Tim was and is great in the car, it puts him to sleep, Mae is a crazy girl so the Sherpa is a life saver. I am getting her used to driving so we take the car seat for shorter rides but she has her harness on and is tethered in. She doesn't whine as much in the car seat but she is much more active and somewhat distracting so a long ride with her until she gets used to things would be exhausting. Just remember if you use the Sherpa and the puppy whines and cries do your best to ignore it for your safety as well as hers, the last thing you need is a loose puppy running around your car!

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I have a 3-hour drive to my breeders house and I have a Sherpa soft crate or a Car seat to use for the ride home. What would you recommend? I will be using the car seat regularly and would like to be able to use the car seat in passenger seat so I can comfort the pup during the ride. If this is recommended than what harness & size would you recommend for a 10-week old pup? Also, any other recommendations for the ride home?
My breeders (Pam & Tom King -- Starborn Havanese) recommended using a small crate for the ride home. Prior to getting that recommendation, I purchased a SolvIt Tagalong carseat. Pam was skeptical about a carseat for a 10 week old pup, but once she saw it, she loved it and thought it would be perfect for our 4 hour ride home. Maccabee loves his carseat and I never have a problem getting him to ride in it.

I've been through at least a half-dozen harnesses (because Maccabee loves eating them). I purchased this harness for him a couple weeks ago. I was skeptical because it is "PetCo" brand, rather than a national brand, but it turned out to be my favorite harness so far. I love that it has two loops for attaching the leash or tether. One loop is near the neck, and the second one is at the bottom of the harness (still on the back, though). I use the lower loop with the car seat, so he has more wiggle room in the seat. Also, since both loops are on the back of the harness, it is a "no pull" type harness, which is great for training a pup to walk on a leash or for using with a puller. Also, it has an adjustable neck, which many mesh harnesses do not have. The Harness was marked $19.00, but the store manager mentioned that he had a few on clearance because they were discontinuing the color/pattern. He showed them to me and I ended up getting 2 harnesses, for $4 each!

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Typically, no pull harnesses have the attachment for the leash on the front of the harness rather than on the back so that if the dog tries to pull they just end up turning themselves to face their walker. It is somewhat difficult to find a harness that will fit a very small, young puppy. Some folks us a cat harness as they are smaller than most dog harnesses. Maybe your breeder could suggest a type of harness to start with. You will inevitably replace it with a larger harness as your puppy grows.


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Okay, so tell me if I'm understanding this correctly:
-a no-pull harness is used for walking, training, tieouts, etc and has a ring on the front, underneath the chin
-a harness to be used for attaching to car seats should have the ring on the rear of the harness for comfort purposes.

In other words, I need to purchase two harnesses?
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Okay, so tell me if I'm understanding this correctly:
-a no-pull harness is used for walking, training, tieouts, etc and has a ring on the front, underneath the chin
-a harness to be used for attaching to car seats should have the ring on the rear of the harness for comfort purposes.

In other words, I need to purchase two harnesses?
Correct and eventually you will need 2 harnesses. When Leo was quite young and small I just put him in his Sherpa bag when we were in the car. He then graduated to a car seat for a time that had a clip to attach to his harness. I didn't have much confidence in the clip so we have moved to a Vest Harness that the seatbelt goes through. I put a travel may on the seat because the leather gets hot or cold depending on the temperature.


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Typically, no pull harnesses have the attachment for the leash on the front of the harness rather than on the back so that if the dog tries to pull they just end up turning themselves to face their walker. It is somewhat difficult to find a harness that will fit a very small, young puppy. Some folks us a cat harness as they are smaller than most dog harnesses. Maybe your breeder could suggest a type of harness to start with. You will inevitably replace it with a larger harness as your puppy grows.
That's right, I got it backwards. The no-pull harnesses have the loop under the chin.

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Okay, so tell me if I'm understanding this correctly:
-a no-pull harness is used for walking, training, tieouts, etc and has a ring on the front, underneath the chin
-a harness to be used for attaching to car seats should have the ring on the rear of the harness for comfort purposes.

In other words, I need to purchase two harnesses?
On the no-pull harness, the ring is actually on the middle of the chest. Not all dogs need a no-pull harness… many learn to walk without pulling on a regular harness. But if you find that you are having a hard time getting the concept of loose leash walking across to an over-excited puppy (or dog) out in the real world, the no-pull harnesses can help a lot.

Yes, you should use a dedicated car harness in the car, if you are not going to crate your dog. The Petco harness looks like a nice all-round harness, but it is NOT a good option as a car harness, simply because it stretches. Under impact, the dog could slip right through the front of the harness. (think about it… seat belts are NOT stretchy… for a very good reason!)

Also, you do not want ANY metal hardware between in the connection between the harness and the seatbelt. This hardware is a real weak link, and has been shown to fail over and over. The safest connection between the car harness and the seat belt is a heavily sewn slot of webbing on the back of the harness, which the seat belt slides through.

A final word about dogs in the car. Your dog should NOT be in the passenger seat unless you can disable the airbag on that side. An inflating airbag can easily crush and kill a small dog in a not very severe accident.

Kodi does ride in the front seat with me, and I TOTALLY understand the attraction. He is very goo company! But my car automatically disables the airbag on the passenger seat unless there is at least 70 lbs on the seat.


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I have a 3-hour drive to my breeders house and I have a Sherpa soft crate or a Car seat to use for the ride home. What would you recommend? I will be using the car seat regularly and would like to be able to use the car seat in passenger seat so I can comfort the pup during the ride. If this is recommended than what harness & size would you recommend for a 10-week old pup? Also, any other recommendations for the ride home?
If you can have someone come with you that would be best. I would use the crate. The puppy will be in a new environment and probably a bit scared.Having someone to put their hand in the crate to help calm it is best. I used a laundry basket that was on my moms lap. She got car sick once so remember to bring extra bedding and wet cloths. I just had a small collar and a very light weight leash to let my baby get out once or twice during the trip.I wouldn't use the car seat until the pup is a bit older. IMO

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