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Hi All,

I haven't posted in awhile, but here I am with a problem I need input on! My backyard grass has turned to toast from urine stains. Most of my yard is taken up by a fenced swimming pool with pavement around it, but my dogs are trained to go potty on a small area of grass next to the pool. Of course, when it rains, they don't want to get their little Havvie feet wet, so then they go on the pavement. Not a big deal to me....I just hose it off. The problem is the grass area. It looks AWFUL and I want to replace it with something practical, easy to clean, will be clean for them to walk on, will not harmful to their feet, or be something they could ingest. Has anyone else dealt with this problem and found a solution that they like? Something that looks nice enough that I will still enjoy spending time in my backyard? Oh yes, affordable is important too.

Thanks for any ideas you can give me!

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Another idea is to add a supplement that is supposed to keep their urine from burning the lawn out. I am not sure of exact names but I have seen them in catalogs.
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When we finish our outside run/kennel area, it will be peat gravel on top of sand. - that may not be a bad idea....then you could landscape around the outside to hide the 'potty' area.
 
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It's too late for supplements added to their diet. As I said, the grass is toasty brown. It just isn't working out with multiple dogs in my yard. Since my grass area is so small, it gets a lot of abuse from regular potty visits. I really just need to replace it and would like some ideas. Thanks!

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What is peat gravel? Is it small? Is there a size specification? I have considered gravel, but I want it to be comfortable for them to walk on and also something they won't eat. Something else I should mention is that the soil in my backyard is full of clay. When it rains, my grass area floods, the water does not absorb easily. So I need to address this problem too. If I dug down, removing the grass, put in sand as you suggested, then peat gravel, would this solve the drainage problem? I'm thinking I probably have to install a drain to take the water away.......

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Peat Gravel (or Pea Gravel as some label it) is small rounded stones. Nothing like standard gravel that is large and roughly shaped. Peat gravel has no rough, corners or sides. Kind of think of them as small pebbles. Dogs shouldn't eat them, I have never heard of one doing so anyways. I can walk on them, it doesn't hurt.

We were trying to find a way to limit our grass too as the constant peeing in our lawn was causing dead spots. With our new 'safety kennel/run' they can't go all over our lawn and only have 1 area to do it. Sounds like your dogs use the same area, so training them shouldn't be hard if they are taught to go in the same place.

We didn't want our kennel/run to have grass as it would look horrid with our patio being back there as well. Sounds kind of the same as your pool area.

Our boarding kennel uses that concept and thats where I got my information. I love our kennel. The idea for the sand is for drainage. The kennels layout has 6-8" of sand and then 8-10" of peat gravel. They hose off the area with a diluted kennel solution. As for clay (we have some, not tons in our ground), is there someone you can ask? Call a landscaper maybe and see if drainage is necessary with a base of sand? The rain will go right through the peat gravel, so you wouldn't have any standing water. The sand should help absorb and relocate the water. At least around here is does.

Anyways, This is what we plan on doing. I am very excited for the outcome when we are finished. Hoping it may be an idea for you.
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I wouldn't recommend the supplements to prevent urine stains - I have heard of them causing serious health problems in some dogs which scares me.

I used to have Lincoln pee in a pea gravel pit and he was fine with it. But, it didn't work well for Scout - he would try to eat the gravel ('cause he eats anything and everything) and he really didn't like the feel of it under his feet. I think they get used to eliminating on a certain type of surface. My patio is covered with brick pavers, so the dogs just go potty out there and I hose it down several times a day. I am considering putting in high quality artificial turf (like those LPGA golf courses) to extend their area. A urine-burned lawn isn't too attractive, so I don't let the dogs go potty on my lawn anymore. I hope you find something that will work well for you - let us know so we can copy!

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Dora has taken a liking to peeing on those white garden stones that are in the flower area of our yard. While it wasn't made for her- she created her own area!

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Thank you for the information, Kristy. This may work well for me. I am going to talk to a landscaper and see what they think of the idea. I really like the look of brick, so I may want to put brick pavers in the area, then pea gravel along the side under my apricot tree. There is dirt (mud in the winter) under the tree now, so I have a garden wire fence there so the dogs can't get all dirty. When I think of pea gravel, I think it may be used to resemble a stream bed, which would be pretty along the side. I will let you know what I end up doing. If anyone else has found something they like, I'd love to hear about it. I don't think I can afford the artificial turf. I've heard it's very expensive to install.

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I'll be watching this thread with interest as it is a problem for us as well.

I, and esp my DH, hate the unsightly urine stains in the grass. We have a small picket fence area in a corner of our yard that is supposed to be a garden but I don't (or rather, can't, lol!) garden so we want to use as a potty area. Right now we have it mulched. Mulch is like velcro on our Hav's hair so that isn't a good solution.

I wouldn't use the supplements either. They change the pH of the urine which can't be good for a dog's overall health.
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