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Question Oh boy... no crossing the street!

I need some help. We live across the street from an elementary school. They had a fire drill today as Kona was outside going potty. He immediately ran over to the road, looked at me as I was saying No Kona, Stay. Then jumped right into the street Good thing there were no cars coming. But--- I was thinking, I do want him to be friendly, but also not crossing the street and to come or stay. I know how to do general commands for sit, stay, come... but can anyone offer what you find works with your havanese. When I call him, he thinks it's a "game" so he'll bounce bounce and then maybe come over and play. Hm... I need helpful hints if anyone has some please!
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This is a tough one. And the most important. Personally I don't use treats to for the come command since you aren't likely to have one when you need it. I like using the long line attached to the collar. Call "come" and then gently reel them in and praise them. Only say "come" one time and when they are at your feet, put them in a sit and say, "Kona, good come" and praise, praise, praise. Also, I don't let my dogs go anywhere without a leash except a secure area. It just isn't worth the chance in my opinion.

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Brooke, you shouldn't allow him to be off leash in an area where he can get out to the street until he is 100% at recall. This can take years (if ever). Kubrick is 10 months old and I wouldn't ever allow him to be off leash, even if it is in a front yard, if he can get out onto the street. I only trust him to come to me maybe 50% of the time.

Recall is something that takes a lot of time and work. Also, when you call him, you need to say "sit" or "down" and make sure that he will stay until you can get to him. Practice at home before moving on to outside where there are a lot of things going on.


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I would not allow him to be off leash either just too risking and I know you would not want anything to happen to him.....hopefully you will get some other ideas as well. My dogs are not allowed loose just do not want to take that chance....I would feel very guilty if something happend!!!!

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Well I know this sounds stupid, and I feel bad for not thinking of it, but I usually just sit him in the grass and he will potty and come right back inside. I guess that's too trusting of me.. and I hadn't thought about using a leash everytime. I feel like a bad mommy Thanks for reminding me that I need to be more responsible in doing a leash EVERY time not just when I know the street will be busy or we go for walks.
So, you don't treat for come? I use little bites of his food for treats on sit, stay and down. Thanks for the advise
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Brooke, I actually have always been taught the opposite, "come" should be the only command that you treat for every single time no matter what. This way your dog knows that every single time you say come there will be a treat following. So he knows that when you call something really good is coming every time (unlike sit or down where I don't really treat Kubrick for it anymore and sometimes he doesn't really want to sit and it takes him 2 times to do it - with come you want them to come right away every time no matter what, so they need to know that you will be giving them something really good every time they do it!). Unless you're not into treating at all, I think it's a good idea to always give treats for "come."


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This is a tough one. And the most important. Personally I don't use treats to for the come command since you aren't likely to have one when you need it. I like using the long line attached to the collar. Call "come" and then gently reel them in and praise them. Only say "come" one time and when they are at your feet, put them in a sit and say, "Kona, good come" and praise, praise, praise. Also, I don't let my dogs go anywhere without a leash except a secure area. It just isn't worth the chance in my opinion.

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Thanks guys, great ideas.
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Brooke, I too never let my dogs off leash. Just as a reenforcement....the mother of my daughters Hav had always played outside off leash with her owners with no problems. Then one day, she dashed out into the street and was killed by a car. They have no idea what she saw, or why she ran, but she did. I think of this everytime I take my three dogs out and am tempted to let them loose. We do not have a fenced in yard and I have to leash them all up ( 3 dogs) each time we go out to potty. It's a real pain, but I know they are safe. Teaching the come command is still very important, but keeping them safe on a leash is, in my opinion, the only way if you don't have a fenced in yard.

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I was taught the same as Lina to always reward come. I was also taught to have an emergency word like "chicken" my boys always come when I say chicken.

You have to read Marie's Backyard Intruder thread http://havaneseforum.com/showthread.php?t=3251 to see how well it worked for her, although I can now chuckle a little at Marie running through the back yard yelling "Treat, Treat.." Sorry Marie.

If you do not have a word that always makes them come in an emergency just call them and run in the opposite direction, most of the time they will follow and chase you.

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