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walk nice on leash..nope

i feel like i am beating a dead horse but, i continue to struggle with walking nice on a leash. my django PULLS like crazy, i know i am the root of the problem. sooo, i've been reading a lot on different options for walking nice on a leash. when my dog knows i have treats on hand, he is glued to my side during walks, the problem is that he is soo focused on me that he's not paying attention to where he is walking. i am a long ways up from his perspective so it almost looks uncomfortable when he's looking up at me waiting for the next treat. the other problem he won't do his business, agian, sooo focused on me, he forgets the purpose of our walks. any suggestions?
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I use different types of walks for what I am doing, where I am. Isabelle's ideal spot is about 10 feet in front of me with no leash, Dora is about 10 feet behind me no leash. However, when we are in a busy area, i need them right next to me. So I use "heel" from obedience and the know that means walk next to mom. I use "okay" and it means go do your own thing-potty, sniff around, etc. Maybe you need to strike a balance of the two depending upon where you are and what you want to get done.

Are the purpose of most of your walks to take him out to go potty or to exercise him. My girls potty in the yard but Belle is a marker so she loves to mark every where we walk as well. Everyone laughs but she will walk and pee at the same time so that helps!

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my walks are for exercise and pooping. depending on the time of season and the weather, sometimes they are 5 minutes in the cold to get him to poop, othertimes, like when i am down here in florida, it's about a 30 minute walk to exercise and at some point, he will poop. i never have him off leash at home,i live on a busy street and my back yard is the lake.
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I'm not a trainer, but I think it is time to remove treats from the walking training and just correct the bad behavior and reward the good behavior with verbal cues. A correction would be that sharp "Ah ah" sound, and praise should be a soothing, but happy, "Good boy, Django. Good boy. Nice walk!"

Have you done any training on loose-leash walking?
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My post from another thread copied and pasted:

I prefer to teach them to walk with a loose lead on a leash. We raise horses too and you HAVE to train them to walk with a loose lead because there is no winning a tug-of-war battle. We train babies (horses) to give to lead pressure on their second day after birth-don't worry, we have a method that involves no pulling on them.

A dog can only pull against a leash if it has matching pressure on the other end. The trick is to teach them to give to ANY pressure then feel on the end of the leash. They are best taught in an inside space where they aren't distracted enough to want to run after something. I would never tie a leash to my belt as there is no way to control the pressure needed enough. Any training can be done by submission or understanding and I always prefer understanding.

The person on the other end of the leash puts LIGHT pressure on the end of the leash. The next step is the important one. The INSTANT the dog gives into the pressure the handler RELEASES pressure enough that the dog, or horse as it may be, feels AND sees the handler give. You are teaching understanding and it needs to be done every time the dog forgets.

Teaching leading outside is best done on a long, brisk walk. The walk needs to be fast enough that the dog finds it easier to stay close to the handler. Timing is everything in training. The INSTANT the dog pulls on the leash it has to be taken back by the handler and the pressure yielded INSTANTLY. This of course requires a practiced touch so as not to choke the dog. With small dogs the type of collar is not important other than to be wide enough not to pinch the dogs neck. You don't jerk the dog back and certainly not enough to take it off its feet, but only enough so that the dog understands that the handler is in control.

I've seen Pam teach an untrained rescue dog how to lead in a couple of minutes. Letting a dog continue to pull on a leash is just teaching it that it can. As with any training of horses or dogs or dogs it's MUCH simpler to teach it correctly the first time so it never knows anything different. With practice, it becomes automatic for the handler without having to think about it.

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my walking, where he's focused on me is loose leash walking. i just took him for a little walk, had a treat in my hand, the leash had so much slack in it, he was sooo focused on me, forgetting to pee. by my side the entrie time. i could probably remove the leash all together (which i would never do) and he wouldn't go anywhere. so, is this a good thing? is it a matter of keeping him on a loose leash when i need him by my side and then giving him his freedom here and there during the walks to sniff and smell? do i give him his freedom to do his business and then keep him on a short loose leash the rest of the walk? i know i am probably making this far more confusing than it should be.
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