Color question, tiny hav question - Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-15-2008, 05:48 PM Thread Starter
Roe
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 87
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 0 Times in 0 Posts
Color question, tiny hav question

I am going to get another dog either a maltese or another hav. I am going to look at some tomorrow. Most are black with little white on them and one is all sable more the most part. Is this sable going to change into white eventually? Do any of you have a mostly sable hav now?
Also this breeder told me the hav was imported from Germany and they are tiny havs that should only weigh about 7 lbs. I always read the havs should be between 10-13 pounds on average. Have any of you ever heard of these tiny havs? I don't think they are actually called tiny havs.

Roe
Roe is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-15-2008, 05:55 PM
Pablo&Chuy's momma
 
maryam187's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Eden, NC
Posts: 4,286
Submit Photo: 11
Photo Submissions 9 Times in 8 Posts
Roe, did they intentionally breed 'tiny Havs'? If yes, I wouldn't even go visit if I were you. Try to search teacup havanese here on the forum. That's basically a Havanese that's been bred purposely to please people who want to have a Paris Hilton style Havanese to carry around. This is absolutely NOT part of the standard, they're supposed to be sturdy dogs that run, walk, play, etc. Please read the AKC standard and ask that Breeder questions accordingly!!!

maryam187 is offline  
post #3 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-15-2008, 06:13 PM
Kimberly
 
Havtahava's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 10,275
Submit Photo: 5
Photo Submissions 18 Times in 12 Posts
I'd avoid any Havs that are predicted to be "tiny" on a regular basis. My lightweight adult female is nearly 10 pounds.

With sable coloring, you never know. Sometimes it will fade into a shade that looks like caramel or even cream, but sometimes it holds the reddish brown. It just depends on the dog. Havanese are known for changing colors, so I would recommend that you don't stick too hard and fast to any particular color as a "must have" for you. Sure, all of us are drawn to specific colors and/or markings, but don't let yourself get too stuck on one because it is likely to morph into something else over time.

Most important is to find out if the breeder does health testing on their dogs before breeding, and to see if the temperament of the parents is good and sound.
Havtahava is offline  
 
post #4 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-15-2008, 06:44 PM
Quincy's Mom-Vinnie too!
 
Julie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ia.
Posts: 9,923
Submit Photo: 35
Photo Submissions 17 Times in 16 Posts
Tiny havs? I'd run.....

Vincent-Quincy's playmate

"Behind every unstable dog is a lesson for the owner"-Cesar Millan
Julie is offline  
post #5 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-15-2008, 07:50 PM
Kimberly
 
Havtahava's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 10,275
Submit Photo: 5
Photo Submissions 18 Times in 12 Posts
By the way, no matter where the dog originated, no reputable breeder would breed a "tiny" Havanese.
Havtahava is offline  
post #6 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-15-2008, 08:06 PM
Total Havanese Groupie
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,639
Submit Photo: 7
Photo Submissions 37 Times in 16 Posts
I agree. You can easily search the pups health at the chic site, even with the most minimal information. Ask lots of questions before you go and visit the pups, way too hard to say no when you see the actual sweetie. I know from experience, as I totally did it the wrong way with a "backyard" breeder with my great dane. I fell in love with him and didn't think with my head. Consequently, he health issues from six months to six years with his knee and hip joints. I spent thousands of dollars and watched him suffer in his last years. Never again.
There is nothing more comforting then a breeder who is responsible, truly loves the breed, does health tests, and stands by her dogs.
Posh's Mom is offline  
post #7 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-15-2008, 08:14 PM
Senior Member
 
littlebuddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,829
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 13 Times in 13 Posts
i'd run too. my breeder actually told me that there are people out there who are breeding tiny havs for that purpose, my litt guy is 9 lbs. i was lucky to get a small one, makes it easier to travel, she picked him out for us, she must have known he was going to be the small one in the litter, his half brother is 20 lbs. i'd be a little cautions too.
littlebuddy is offline  
post #8 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-15-2008, 09:05 PM
Kubrick & Hitchcock's Mom
 
Lina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 7,774
Submit Photo: 1
Photo Submissions 33 Times in 24 Posts
I would also run away. No reputable breeder would ever ever breed tiny Havs on purpose!


Visit my blog
-----
Check out my photos
-----
Photography (pets, people, weddings) - TripleC Photography
Lina is offline  
post #9 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-16-2008, 05:55 AM
Sierra & Baileys servant
 
Suuske747's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maastricht, the Netherlands
Posts: 1,125
Submit Photo: 10
Photo Submissions 23 Times in 13 Posts
Do you have a name of the Breeder that they imported it from? Wouldn't be surprised if they imported it from Hungary or Czech Republic.....One has got to be so careful....In those countries responsible breeders are having a hard time fighting the mills....
Please PM it to me, and I'll so some research.....

I'll check if it's an FCI-recognised breeder...or in Germany's case VDH (German branch of FCI)...... I doubt it will be....

To me "tiny hav's" sounds already like a huge red flag!

Suzanne and her Sparkling Sierra, godmother to Dinky (*) and Baileys!
Suuske747 is offline  
post #10 of 79 (permalink) Old 03-16-2008, 07:45 AM
Joe
 
mugsy & me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: canada
Posts: 814
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 4 Times in 2 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Posh's Mom View Post
I agree. You can easily search the pups health at the chic site, even with the most minimal information. Ask lots of questions before you go and visit the pups, way too hard to say no when you see the actual sweetie. I know from experience, as I totally did it the wrong way with a "backyard" breeder with my great dane. I fell in love with him and didn't think with my head. Consequently, he health issues from six months to six years with his knee and hip joints. I spent thousands of dollars and watched him suffer in his last years. Never again.
There is nothing more comforting then a breeder who is responsible, truly loves the breed, does health tests, and stands by her dogs.
what is the 'chic' site?

joe
mugsy & me is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome