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I am a new member & I think not to good at this "posting" business so if I have placed my introduction in the wrong place, please forgive me.
I have been a Yorkie rescue mommy for 12 years. My journey has come to an end with my Yorkies. I will spare you my sad stories but suffice to say, I am ready now to have 1 "quality" dog. I have done my time with rescue & I can tell you that it has been the most rewarding experience in my life, also, the most heartbreaking. I learned unconditional love, patience & most of all I hope I have helped my four little Yorkies live lives they never would have otherwise had. I have been researching the Havanese for quite some time now & am searching for a good quality breeder in North Carolina. My biggest concern is the health of my "baby", I know there are never any guarantees but I know that testing is done. Can any of you share with me about your dog? It's teeth, health issues, temperament, what you love about this breed, etc. Thank you so very much.
Sincerely, Keri
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Keri, welcome to the forum and to the breed. I fell in love with these sweet little creatures in 2006 when one of my clients had one. I started investigating, almost buying from a bad source on the Internet. What had me fooled was, her site warned against buying from puppy mills and backyard breeders. To make a long story short, I found the forum and with much help from the devoted people here, I got my first, Milo, from a breeder, then in Nebraska (S. Dakota?), now in Naples. I love him so much that he wound up being the first of three little angels that now populate my world.

Bred well, they are sturdy little dogs with fewer health issues than many other breeds, but they do have their susceptibilities. I've gotten lucky with mine (so far), so I'll let those with more experience with the issues, speak to that. Temperamentally, they are wonderful, warm, loving and devoted to their people/person. If you choose to go that route, I'm sure you'll be as happy/crazy as the rest of us.

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Hi Kerri, and !

The funny thing is that I researched long and hard looking for the "right" breeder, with the "right" puppy for me (in my case, I was looking for not only a good tempered, healthy pet, but a performance dog for obedience and agility) and my search brought me right to you home state, to Pam and Tom King of Starborn Havanese. Starborn certainly isn't the only place to get healthy, good tempered, well-raised Havanese, but they ware close to you, and a great place to start. They usually have a waiting list, but if you can't or don't want to wait, they can also refer you to other trusted breeders in the area who might have litters planned.

My guy is the love of my life, and as you can see from the string of letters after his name, he has also been all I could ask for in the competition ring! At the moment, he's snuggled in my lap in a pile of towels after his bath. Soon it will be off to blow him dry before bed!


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Thank you for your thoughts. I look forward to hearing from others as well. I am planning on going to an all-breed dog show next weekend at the Cabarrus Arena so I can hopefully meet a few breeders & see these precious cuties! You all seem very happy to have chosen this breed, I am just trying to check into some things such as teeth because my Yorkies all had terrible teeth even though I started them young with me cleaning their "toofies". (I used to be a dental assistant). It was hard to watch them all have to go through having many teeth pulled due to poor breeding. I believe in feeding an all organic diet, using no pesticides, etc.
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Thank you for your thoughts. I look forward to hearing from others as well. I am planning on going to an all-breed dog show next weekend at the Cabarrus Arena so I can hopefully meet a few breeders & see these precious cuties! You all seem very happy to have chosen this breed, I am just trying to check into some things such as teeth because my Yorkies all had terrible teeth even though I started them young with me cleaning their "toofies". (I used to be a dental assistant). It was hard to watch them all have to go through having many teeth pulled due to poor breeding. I believe in feeding an all organic diet, using no pesticides, etc.
Well, it sounds like you've got the feeding situation under control!

All toy breeds are more prone to tooth problems than larger breeds, simply because there is less room in their mouths. But, in general, well bred Havanese do not have ANYTHING like the mouth problems that Yorkies have. Sometimes they are born missing a couple of teeth, and those puppies would be sold as pets, not used for show or breeding, but that doesn't affect tooth/mouth health.

If you use an enzyme tooth paste and brush their teeth at least 3 times a week (daily is even better!) you can ward off expensive professional cleaning for a LONG time. …and if you do those professional cleaning BEFORE there is gum disease and/or bone loss, your Hav can keep their teeth and keep them healthy for a very long time.

Mary, who owns Tyler, on the forum is a case in point. Tyler is one of our very oldest forum members at 16 1/2. He has had his teeth professionally cleaned only once, and at his age, still has all his teeth! BUT Mary has taken good regular care of them all the way along.

Even among Yorkies, I bet that the good breeders have dogs with better mouths than your rescues did too. I'm sure that there are puppy mill Havaese rescues dogs that have more tooth problems than the average well-bred Hav also, but I'd bet not as bad as a poorly bred Yorkie.


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Well, it sounds like you've got the feeding situation under control!

All toy breeds are more prone to tooth problems than larger breeds, simply because there is less room in their mouths. But, in general, well bred Havanese do not have ANYTHING like the mouth problems that Yorkies have. Sometimes they are born missing a couple of teeth, and those puppies would be sold as pets, not used for show or breeding, but that doesn't affect tooth/mouth health.

If you use an enzyme tooth paste and brush their teeth at least 3 times a week (daily is even better!) you can ward off expensive professional cleaning for a LONG time. …and if you do those professional cleaning BEFORE there is gum disease and/or bone loss, your Hav can keep their teeth and keep them healthy for a very long time.

Mary, who owns Tyler, on the forum is a case in point. Tyler is one of our very oldest forum members at 16 1/2. He has had his teeth professionally cleaned only once, and at his age, still has all his teeth! BUT Mary has taken good regular care of them all the way along.

Even among Yorkies, I bet that the good breeders have dogs with better mouths than your rescues did too. I'm sure that there are puppy mill Havaese rescues dogs that have more tooth problems than the average well-bred Hav also, but I'd bet not as bad as a poorly bred Yorkie.
Yes, Tyler has not lost any teeth due to an unhealthy mouth but don't forget about the three front upper teeth that he knocked out when he "kissed" the back step because his compromised vision. Ouch!!


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Yes, Tyler has not lost any teeth due to an unhealthy mouth but don't forget about the three front upper teeth that he knocked out when he "kissed" the back step because his compromised vision. Ouch!!
Not sure I knew about that, but I don't think that counts!


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