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What to do about the psychotic Poodles?

We live in a dog-friendly apartment building. The building provides a fenced astroturf patch on the roof for potty needs, with sprinklers that run twice a day. Obviously, when you take your dog up to potty there is a decent chance of running into someone else and their dog up there. There are a lot of dog owners in the building and mostly we all get along fine. It's mostly small dogs (the units are small so I think most large dog owners look elsewhere).

However there is one couple in the building with two extremely rambunctious standard poodles, one black and one cream. And when I say "extremely rambunctious" I mean that they are mostly ok around people but if they catch sight of another dog they both completely lose their mind, barking their heads off and lunging at the other dog. Their owners will try to get them under control but completely fail every time. I don't know if they're "just trying to play" but the way they are barking and lunging seems more aggressive. I am a 95 pound woman with a 9 pound dog so these two large dogs lunging aggressively at me and my dog does not thrill me.

I usually carry Diva in my arms up to the patch on the roof- this started during potty training so she could tell the difference between "leaving on lead to go for a walk" and "leaving in arms to go potty". I would not feel safe at all having her on lead on the roof at this point and I still don't really feel safe with her in my arms since these two poodles are trying to jump on me and get at my dog and they could definitely knock me over.

Obviously I don't know where these dogs came from, they could be rescue dogs and the owners are working with them, etc. But they don't even have them under physical control which is scary to me. My girlfriend saw the two poodles lunge out of an elevator after a small dog that had gotten off at a different floor, and they pulled the woman holding the leash onto the floor and DRAGGED her down the hallway on her stomach. So to clarify, the owner was not intending to get off at that floor but the poodles chased a small dog out and dragged her out on her stomach. I once stepped onto the elevator with Diva while the man and just ONE poodle were on the elevator, and the dog immediately started freaking out so badly that the man had to DRAG him out of the elevator before th doors even closed(so in a matter of seconds he completely lost physical control of his dog). When we run into them in the common roof area they immediately lose their minds and start lunging at me and whoever has them has to drag them off (while trying to calm them down verbally and saying "off" and "down" and "no" which has absolutely no effect).

So... I don't really know what to do! Obviously there are valid reasons to own and work with dogs with aggression issues, but since they clearly can't physically control the dogs with other dogs around, I wish they would at least take just one at a time (the cream poodle is more aggressive... when the black poodle is alone it just barks, but when they are together the black poodle picks up the cream poodle's energy). I am a little nervous to talk to them since I will admit to being kind of rude in the past, running through doors and letting them slam (because their dogs are lunging at me).

Thoughts? Has anyone dealt with a situation like this?
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IS there a way to kill the poodles without anyone finding out it was you? If they lived in my building I would be plotting murder. So sorry for your woes. Terrible terrible.

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I recommend you contact Seattle Animal Control regarding these dangerous and menacing animals since it is an ongoing problem that is impacting all dog owners in the building. Here is their website and info on the topic:

http://www.seattle.gov/animal-shelter/animal-control

If you or your pet have been victims of aggressive behavior displayed by another animal, call us immediately at (206) 386-7387. If you have a life-threatening situation involving both humans and animals, call 911.

Reports of dangerous or menacing animals will be investigated by our officers. Statements from the victim, owner and any witnesses will be taken. Proof of rabies vaccination may be required. The animal may be quarantined and/or impounded. Citations and/or criminal charges may result.
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Wow - the suggestion above sounds even better than murder. Maybe you could get some others in the building to call also. Good luck!

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IS there a way to kill the poodles without anyone finding out it was you? If they lived in my building I would be plotting murder. So sorry for your woes. Terrible terrible.
Sorry. It shouldn't have, probably, but this made me laugh.

Do you have a landlord or company that runs your building? I would complain like nobody's business. I would also probably somewhat nicely confront them and tell them they have no business bringing their dogs around people or animals until they're civilized. Ugh. Can't imagine dealing with that. No WAY should you have to put up with that in a place you're living.

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Wow - the suggestion above sounds even better than murder. Maybe you could get some others in the building to call also. Good luck!
Off topic, but your dog is super cute. His coat is so clean looking.
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Cute dog.

This kind of stuff is horrible! My suggestion is to drop an anon note in the apt mgr drop box that the dogs are out of control and someone is going to get sued. You should not have to confront them yourself, the manager/super should take care of it. Maybe even suggest that they walk them separately so as to have some control. And try to avoid them if at all possible!

I live across the street from a total moron who thinks its ok to let his dog run loose in an urban area. It stopped for awhile so I thought he wised up but they are back doing it again. I lost it with the guy's girlfriend the other day when the dog ran over to my yard (across the street) just as I was leaving with mine. I stepped on my hav's foot in the mess which really made me mad. She claims that the TRAINER told them to have the dog off. What kind of trainer, I cant imagine. A couple of losers. I feel bad for the dog. The weird thing is they paid an insane amount of money for him, but I guess he's just another material thing and they dont really care about him. If they had more established patterns I would call animal control, but when the dog is out is fairly random as I think they have multiple homes and/or travel.
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Thanks SJ!

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I would talk with this person on the side , without the dogs . Tell them your concerns, and go from there. See what they offer. If they are unwilling to do something , I would talk to your super. Maybe they should be banned from using the top for nature calls and go outside. , if they don't do something. They need professional help but that's another story.

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[QUOTE=SJ1998;694010]Cute dog.

This kind of stuff is horrible! My suggestion is to drop an anon note in the apt mgr drop box that the dogs are out of control and someone is going to get sued. You should not have to confront them yourself, the manager/super should take care of it. Maybe even suggest that they walk them separately so as to have some control. And try to avoid them if at all possible!

I agree with the anonymous part. I've dealt with neighbors, in the past, that were not so good to deal with in person and since they were neighbors, you couldn't always avoid them. Try this first and if nothing comes of it, you may have to talk with them.

So sorry to hear this. It is NO FUN when people aren't responsible and considerate dog people!

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