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Male or Female ?

Hi Folks. First I would like to introduce myself. I am David G from Ontario . My wife and I are both newly retired and have owned dogs Airdale Terriers) all our lives. Since our last dog past away we have been looking for a smaller dog and after a lot of research have decided on the Havanese.I have been following and learning from this forum for a couple of months. There seems to be a wealth of information available from the members of the forum and I would appreciate your opinion on the question of male or female dogs. We have always had female dogs in the past and we are wondering if there is much difference between the the trainability and temperment of male and female Havanese.I have heard that males tend to be more affectionate than femlaes, but I must admit, I am a little concerned about males "marking".I would like to hear your opinions about the two. Hope I haven't opened a can of worms here .

I am looking forward to learning and perhaps contributing to this forum in the future.

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Welcome David - you certainly will get a lot of info here!! I have two girls and one boy. I can say that the boy (who is only 18 weeks old) is certainly a lot better behaved as a puppy, than the girls were. He is training beautifully and just wants to please. Although, the girls, once they picked up on something, they never forgot it. Girls are more expensive to spay than boys. I thought that my guy was marking a few weeks ago, but he doesnt do it anymore so I think it was just "he had to go". He will be neutered in 2 weeks. The word on the street that I heard is that the males are the omega, they are calmer and will take the submissive role with no problem - although I have met some wild males!!! I got a male for my third, as my breeder suggested that he would take the submissive role (which he has) and there would be no fighting. I personally dont think there is a big difference if you are only getting one. If you are going to eventually get more than one, then you should consider a boy and a girl. Good luck & keep us advised!!
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Welcome David,
I am a Canadian too. Nova Scotia. When I first decided on the Havanese, I wanted a female, but after talking to the breeder and anyone else that would listen, I decided on a male. The main reason is that males seem to have more patience with kids. I have 2 kids (2 & 5). Sam is not a cuddler, doesn't like to be held or carried. But he is very affectionate. He will jump on the couch, give masses amounts of kisses, then jump down and sleep on the floor. He is not neutered and I do have a problem with him marking on the toilets and in the kids room. As long as the doors are closed he is fine no problem any where else in the house. Good luck .

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Many thanks

Thank you all for your comments; they have been helpful. It maybe some months before I get a puppy, since local breeders usually have waiting lists...and then to get the color and sex I want just adds to the waiting time....but I am sure it will be worth it.

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Welcome David In our experience - all 9 weeks of it - we have found Oreo to be very loving, with all adults and children. He is very eager to please and rarely barks. He is very obedient and is eager to learn and make us happy. Oreo is going to be 19 weeks on Sunday and he has been an absolute pleasure. At first I wanted a female because I "thought" or assumed they would be more affectionate and patient with children. I asked my breeder her opinion and she told me that the males are more submissive and easy going. Based on her experience is why I chose a male instead, and we don't regret it at all. David good luck to you, and don't ever hesitate to ask any question here. This forum has a plethora of helpful information.
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If you plan on having the dog fixed (which most breeders will require, unless you are showing), you shouldn't have a problem with marking.

Quick, lets get the treats out of the bag before Mom sees!
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Ollie is calm sweet and loving - has never marked - was neutered at 5.5 months and it was a breeze - not even a cone to wear. Different people like different personalities - I wanted a NON alpha puppy - I could see it in his eyes and when we went to see the litter - he was the one that came over a curled up on my husbands lap - the females were going crazy! Don't get me wrong - he is fiesty - plays non stop but just "soft" - that was the breeders term..


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Thanks again. Termperment is really important to me. One of the reasons I chose the Havanese is that I have been told that they make wonderful therapy dogs and I would like to train ours for this purpose. Am I wrong in assuming that a NON alpha dog would be better for this purpose..ie likely to cuddle or be cuddled?

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YES! I also have considered the therapy dog route - I believe Ollie would be great for that> I have been researching how to go about that - as a matter of fact we should start a thread to see if anyone has done this or if anyone has information! Here I go!

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Hi David and welcome,

I've had many different breeds over the years and it has been my expeirence that there is no better pet than a neutered male. I've had a dog that wasn't fixed until 3 yrs of age, another was 18 months and Bugsy was 6.5 months when he was fixed and none of them marked in the house, not ever. I actually prefer male cats to female as well.

Good luck, I am sure your puppy is waiting for you.

Edited to add that Bugsy is very affectionate, but really independt. He is definitely an alfa, or would be if Romeo - my real alfa male would allow it. lol He is playful, very active and loves kids, cats, dogs of any sizes and everyone and everything.

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