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Things I never learned in doggie Health class....

I was doing my usual round of checking in on local breeders to drool over new puppy arrivals, when I stumbled over this fascinating story. I just had no idea this could happen, Marley being my first dog ever!!

http://www.burnsgardens.com/Havanesepuppiespage.html
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LOL I read this article of Bill's in the Our Havanese magazine last issue. It's a hoot! He is a member of the Cdn. Hav yahoo list and we were talking about it there too. I think it's hysterical and the fact that both sires of Ali's litter have the same names as my boys makes it even funnier to me. LOL
Of course, I'M not the one having to take the extra steps and do the extra work.

Btw, Ali is a gorgeous Hav! I saw her last August at a picnic gathering and she has lovely colorings and a beautiful face. Helen (Oreo) was there too.




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That was really fascinating. I had no idea that could happen. Mother Nature's little trick. Those are some beautiful puppies.

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What a great article! It sure makes it very clear just how determined a male can be to get to a female in heat!!
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havanese are too smart

Yeah, and what about the havanese that pushes a chair to the counter, eats the food, and then pushes the chair back. It isn't just the boy getting the girl...but the dog with the brains getting the prize!
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When I read this story, I thought it was hysterical. The little stinker couldn't wait to get his paws on that girl. I can't wait to hear the outcome of this.


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That article was in "Our Havanese" magazine, I read it last weekend. Michele, I thought the same thing....that little stinker, how smart the can be.
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Oh, if you look at the bottom of the page by the pictures...those are the results of the DNA test...."Sneak-in Ricky" outdid "Supposed-to-be Daddy Sammy" 5:1 <g>


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When I read this story, I thought it was hysterical. The little stinker couldn't wait to get his paws on that girl. I can't wait to hear the outcome of this.
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Oh yes, this happens way more than we'd like to believe. Elaine just went through this last year too. She went to the courthouse to help with the fight against AB1634 and came home to find that one of her bitches in heat had jumped the fence and was hanging out with the males. Talk about being mortified! (And a determined & horny bitch! grumble, grumble) Elaine fondly called the pups, the "Who's Your Daddy?" litter and went through the same things that Bill did in determining parentage.

In many breeds, they do dual sire breedings on purpose. Since the bitch only has a limited number of breedings possible, there are times when they will have her bred to two that are prime candidates and then do all the DNA testing later to see which one(s) were sired by which dog. One of my girlfriends has Vizslas and took her bitch all the way to the East Coast (from California) for two different breedings, and had to pay two different stud fees up front, and then ended up with a singleton pup. Talk about a let down... and one very expensive puppy!

Bill writes about their experience in a very amusing way! He's an interesting writer.
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That story is cute and scandalous . . . especially the photos.

I remember when we were breeding labs . . . we had a chocolate whom we had already bred once with a black. Since the first litter was all black, we decided to go with a chocolate the second breeding. Unfortunately after trying at his place and ours, the sire could not perform (it was terribly hot and he was a large . . . just sniffed her a lot and then wanted to sit in a tub of water!) We were disappointed, but decided to wait and find another more experienced chocolate the next heat.

That night, we kept hearing squealing in our back yard (6 foot fences all around.) The first black sire had traveled almost 2 miles, scaled his enclosure, and two of our gates to tie up Molly. When we called his owner, he claimed his dog was secure in his pen. About ten minutes later, he pulled up with a sheepish look on his face! Molly produced 8 more beautiful black puppies, one of which is our current Barrett. And to make it even cuter, the sire came one more time to "visit" . . . on Father's Day when Molly had just had her puppies! It was great to tell my boys that dogs "marry" each other too - it was true love.

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