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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-17-2008, 09:11 AM Thread Starter
 
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thanks for all the great advice this past week. I think I've concluded that a puppy would be too much for me right now, but the right adult could work out well for me. I contacted a breeder I'd spoken to once before who had some pups, inquiring about whether she had any adults, and she does have a 2-3 year old female who had her first litter this year. (I assume she has not yet been spayed.)

I haven't met her yet, and I will have a lot of questions for the breeder in terms of her health and temperament, making sure the dog would be happy here as the only canine princess in a quiet house where I'm home most days, but at the computer a lot working. She says she is very sweet, but it was a brief e-mail and that's all I know so far. She is all white (yikes! that sounds like high maintenance.... but I have been saying all along that personality and temperament are my #1 priority, so...). She's local and wouldn't have to be shipped or purchased sight-unseen, which is nice.

Are there any special considerations with females who are spayed after their first litter in terms of health? Are the surgeries more complicated, are they more or less prone to certain problems, etc.? Do they mark? (I know that's more of a male trait, but I had an unspayed female mixed breed here a few months ago who marked everything in the house, something I'm not crazy about.)

Any thoughts on the older, post-litter female thing would be much appreciated!
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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-17-2008, 09:20 AM
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If the dog has the right temperament, it sounds like a great match. The spay surgery shouldn't be any different. Marking is an individual behavior. I'm sure the breeder will be frank with you if you ask that about the particular bitch.

White/cream dogs aren't that much more maintenance wise unless you do a lot of outdoor walks on blacktop or if you let your dogs roam through wet areas and air dry. It is the same dirt that would be on a darker colored dog, but you see it more on the light colored dogs. The only real difference I notice is the tear staining if the dog has it. (Not all Havs will have tear staining.) You will see that right away if the dog is prone to staining though.

It sounds like you are asking all the right questions. It sounds like a great match that the breeder is local too. Hopefully you can go visit a time or two and make sure this is the girl for you.
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thanks! The other adult female I was looking at over a month ago was black, but she has since been taken off the market (last I heard, though I might contact that breeder again just in case). While I liked the idea of no tear stains and less prone to looking dirty (and she had a beautiful, silky coat), it was also harder to see her eyes and expression, which is always fun when you can make eye contact and read their mood from across the room.

We live in a fairly urban area and I'd be walking my whatever-colored dog on a lot of sidewalks, but not blacktop, exactly. The sidewalks can get a bit dirty/muddy in wet weather, and I do think I'd be doing more bathing on a white dog. Apparently she has just been shaved down, so for the summer at least, it should be easier. I love the look of the longer coats, but I don't know how long I could keep that up. A mid-length layered cut or puppy cut might be the best way to go. I know I tried the long coat on my yorkie her first year or two, but she SO hated the brushing and she matted so easily that we kept her short after that. She looked like a puppy most of her life.

Anyway, that's just the superficial stuff. Most important is whether we'd be good companions for each other.

Do you find that dogs who come from a breeder environment where they have had lots of canine buddies and activity adjust OK going to a home where they are the only dog? I have tossed around the idea of more than one, but I have no idea what to expect with that multiple dog dynamic, never done it, and I'd really have to sell that one on DH.
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Every breeder situation is different - some keep the dogs in individual areas anyway. For the most part, Havanese are highly adaptable and look to human companionship, so that probably won't be a problem. The only problem area you'd have is if you got the dog that was used to being in the company of others and left it home alone all day every day.
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that's good to hear! I am really feeling a lot better about the idea that just the right adult could fit in perfectly for me. It was the puppy thing that really scared the pants off me, as much as I wanted all the joys of experiencing that stage, I was afraid I couldn't keep up and it stressed me out just thinking about it. An adult that has settled down a bit, isn't going to be going after electrical cords and has a larger bladder for more successful house training (I know they have to be re-trained to an extent) sounds much more do-able.

I am not gone for long periods, and I'd work up to that slowly in terms of leaving her alone for any length of time. I've already got help lined up from a young neighbor girl if it's going to be all day or longer, and I found a great grooming/boarding/training place locally, too, just a mile away. I toured their facility last week and was very impressed. They have several Havanese that come for daycare and grooming, and they've got very experienced people working for them.

So, I feel like I've got my support system in place, and my husband is starting to come around in terms of being more open to it, I've been showing him lots of pictures from this site and I'm getting lots of "aaawwwws" from him.
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Sounds like you are thinking through the details quite well and getting everything in order! Good luck!
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I would say just get yourself over there! See if the personality is right for you.

I have to say- all my dogs have white paws If you are a stickler for colors not showing up on them- yellow, green, brown, blue (dog show with new blue matts!) that just keep some shampoo right on your sink (like me) for paw baths right after a walk. I will be honest that I let my dogs get dirty all the time. Nothing cuter than a dirty exhausted Neezer!

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I'll just interject that I LOVE being able to see dirt, sticks, ticks, etc. on my White/cream dog! I think sometimes if you have a black dog, some things might slip past you, and I am a total clean freak, so I would freak out if my black dog tracked dirt all over my house, and I know any twigs that aren't taken out right away can cause hella mats. I've also picked a tick that was on her fur (not skin) once outside and I'm so glad I SAW IT.

Even if I did have a black dog, I would wash their feet after a walk or Petsmart, etc. its gross to me not to,

Gucci teared when she was younger, but its not a problem now.

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Yes, pros and cons to both colors from a dirt perspective! I wish this one had not just been shaved because it would have been nice to get a look at her natural coat texture, but whatever, no biggie. I only just got a reply to my e-mail this morning, but I haven't been able to reach her by phone or e-mail, so just anxiously waiting to hear back. I had hoped to go this weekend.

I kinda hope this is meant to be. If I do get to meet her and she seems like a good match, I might inquire about the black 2 year old from the other breeder to see if she might be available again just as an alternate choice, because I really liked her too. I had told those folks I was going to hold off till next year, but that was when I thought my only option was a puppy. I was so undecided when communicating with them that they may not trust my judgment at this point and I really couldn't blame them, so it's possible that ship has sailed, hard to say. That dog did have a question of a slippy knee, so it's possible she could need surgery in the future.

I'll post when i know something!
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Kara I agree with you however I have one of each and wouldn't trade them for anything!! They are 100% love (clean or dirty)
However personality and temperament are first in my book!

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