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feeding rituals with 2 or more?

Hello Gang: I was hoping those of you with 2 or more dogs can give me some advice on feeding. I have sort of been letting my two furbabies dictate but I am wondering if I am doing the right thing.

When Cash came in and he was more of an alpha, we tried to feed Jasper first while Cash was in his pen to show him is place in the pack. it worked for a while and then Jasper refused to eat until Cash ate (Jasper has always been a finicky eater) As they became pals- Cash wouldn't eat if Jasper wasn't eating. So we started feeding them together with seperate bowls but they wanted to eat out of the same bowl. So now I put down a baking dish with two portions together and usually they both take a nibble together and then Cash eats his fill and then when he's done and often after we've eaten- Jasper (the true Omega ) eats the rest.

Should I be feeding them out of seperate bowls? and how do you teach them to resect each others bowl or treat - we have a hard time giving Jasper treats because he is so slow and gentle at eating them, Cash usually moves in and steels them. The good news is that Jasper is now eating more Kibble than he ever has, the competition has worked




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Missy - that had always been a problem for us too. Lily tried to eat both her and Lexi's food, so we started feeding Lexi in the hallway, and Lily in the kitchen. The first week we put a gate up, after that Lily never went after it. THEN -- Logan came. We fed him in the pen when he was getting 3 meals a day. Now that he is only getting 2x a day and no pen we had to figure something out. I started by teaching the dogs to sit and stay for their bowls. Whoever sits first, gets their dish first. The others initailly tried to get at it, but I used the "Cesear Milan" chich sound and they sat back down. Now all three are fed in a 4x4' area & dont go to others bowls until they are all done, then they feel they just have to lick each others in case one got something the other didnt
I would feed them in seperate bowls only because it allows you to see how much one is eating, if there are health issues cause one does not eat. You could end up with one 18 pounder & a 6 pounder!!
The treat thing is hard too but with the sit/stay command they usually stay where they are until their treat comes their way. Good Luck & let me know.
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I would be concerned that each one was eating the right amout of food. I had two shepherds that would switch dishes half way through. But one ate much faster than the other, one started loosing weight and the other gained. I had to sit with them while they ate and stop the switching. It took awhile to stop them but the longer you let them share the harder it will to stop. With the treats, try giving them tiny bite size pieces, then there will be nothing for Cash to steel. Keep us posted

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Laurie, refresh my memory. How do you teach the sit/stay? Jasper was very easy to teach- but Cash is sooooo impatient. Our puppy kindergarden(which was supposed to start tonight) was just postponed for another week- and the first class is no dogs- so I think we need a refresher. It seems so long ago that Jas was this age - but it was less than a year.




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Missy, first you teach the sit by luring them with a treat. Going up with the treat and over their head a little so they set their bum on the floor. Then treat them. After they have that down I make logan do this for any treats, like when he goes potty, wants to come in the house, wants his food. You have to be patient as the little ones have a hard time sitting still. Then have him sit for a few seconds. Our trainer has us hold them in that position for 10 seconds (which is long!!) Once they are sitting regularly for you then say sit, and stay and place your open hand in front of their face.(with your fingers pointing to the floor). She says to get them to stay for 10 seconds or more, and then try to turn your back on them - haha --Logan has not gotten to the point where he will stay once we turn away, he wants to be looking in our eyes. So I say sit then stay to all 3 at meal time, once they sit in the same spot for a while, then I put their bowls down. Does this make sense? I know I am rambling a little. Sorry.
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I will try it. He is sitting pretty well now. but not for 10 seconds when there is food involved.




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I think it is just an age thing. We only just started this with the older girls and they sit fine, of course their eyes dart to the bowl and to me and to the bowl and back. But Logan cannot keep his bum still!! It is very funny to watch as he wiggles & tries so hard to sit still!! I am sure once we are doing it for a while, he will sit fine as well. If they get up, you have to NOT give the food and start over again. They learn VERY quickly!!
We just started teaching "leave it" to Logan at last nights class, and already he has figured out what the command means. Its amazing!
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I feed them both at the same time .
I put down one dish near the stove Cosmo has to sit for his food then I take the other dish to other side of the room for Ahnold - he does not know how to sit just yet so his work for food is a Come . . He gets an A never lingers ..
One starts to eat while I walk the other bowl to its spot . Then I stand in the middle to watch and supervise . So far they do not try to each others food . They are done in about 2 minutes . Then they go and check each others bowl - both are empty .. Then I say Ok - all gone and I pick up the bowls .
I agree it is best to fed them seperately as you need to know how much they eat if there are health issues .
Now so far it is working OK . I do not know how breeders do it as they have more dogs and of course cute puppies and lactating Moms..
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I feed them both at the same time, usually next to each other. But, if I see that one is not eating, I will pick up one dish. Otherwise, the one eating will probably eat them both.
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We feed a pack. One has to eat in her crate or she will inhale hers and several others. She will also eat corn off the cob in rows and if you lower a piece of spaghetti into her mouth, you can't lower it fast enough to keep up with the jaws chomping. It's hilarious. The rest are spread out on the floor and watched to make sure the fastest ones don't go for the slowest eaters food.

I don't see that there's any choice but to feed them separately or at some point there will be a weight problem.
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