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HIGH PROTEIN KIBBLE & NOT

I am wondering about giving a high protein food like Orijen or Evo once a day and then giving them a high quality but lower protein kibble at the other meal. I am not ready to commit soley to a high protein kibble but wondered if anyone sees a problem with doing this.

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When Lola was a pup I fed her grain-free Nature's Variety kibble and medallions. She pooped soooo much, it seemed that the food was just going in one end and out the other. So, I added in a non-wheat protein and grain kibble - Salmon & Brown Rice. For breakfast she is grain-free and for dinner she gets mostly the mixed kibble in a ball, so she has to work for it. As a result, even though the volume of food she gets is greater, according to feeding directions, her poop volume is much less. And her frequency is less, so she can hold it much longer at night and during the day. I see no other difference, except, she seems to have less gas as well. I stay away from wheat and chicken. She gets venison, salmon, lamb, bison. Can't say why - it just seems prudent.

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Sounds fine to me. But I tell you, the high protein kibbles have a bad rap. A recent study (wish I could remember the details but it was reputable) said that they are not bad for the kidneys as so many of us have been led to believe. For older dogs especially they found that the higher protein actually prevented the body from using up muscle mass. I've got two on EVO but my other one, the Maltese, needs a bit of grain to keep him from getting hot spots. Oatmeal, potato and rice have been good options for him.


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Evo gives my dogs the runs so I mix Evo in with regular Innova and they do great. For my dogs, it's better to mix the Evo with the regular food for both meals than to give EVO by itself at one meal-in order to avoid diarrhea.

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I had both my guys on Evo before switching to raw and they were fine. You can certainly feed one grain free in the morning and a different one at night. I'd saw the variety is probably better for you dog rather than sticking to soley one brand.
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I usually mix my foods so that they do not have to much of one food. Both EVO and Orijen are great foods but I like to cut the amount of protien that I am feeding and they get to choose. Just be careful what you use for your second food so that they are not just getting fillers.

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Evo gives my dogs the runs so I mix Evo in with regular Innova and they do great. For my dogs, it's better to mix the Evo with the regular food for both meals than to give EVO by itself at one meal-in order to avoid diarrhea.
I agree!

I tried Innova, both boys loved it but Lito had loose stools from it. So I decided not to mess with what worked and I have stuck with Fromm's ever since. I do switch back and forth between the 4 flavors from the 4 star line, so that they don't get bored.

Although it would be much more convenient if the boys could eat Innova because the pet boutique down the street doesn't carry Fromm's, which is strange because they carry all of the other really quality kibble brands and a few raw products as well. Maybe I will try and request to see if they will order it.
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Thanks for your input and would appreciate if others would also weigh in. I think that lots of opinions help with decision making.

My two had been on Innova which I was happy with but think changing the kibble every few months has merit. I now feed them Artemis twice a day. In the AM, I mix it with Kronch Salmon Oil which has really helped their coats as well as knowing it is providing rich Omegas. At night, I mix the Artemis with Evanger's 100% meat. I bought some samples of Orijen and have given it to them more as a supplement or if they skip breakfast, I put it down as needed. For instance, last night Sadie was still hungry and I put some Orijen down by itself and she ate it with no problem. However, in the past when I have mixed it, they are pooping fools which I have attributed to the high protein.

It seemed that people are on high protein or not so wondered if there were others who either consistently or occasionally did both. It seems the high protein would also be helpful on trips when its more of a hassle to bring the cans.

Thanks, Lola, for commenting that my furkids are beautiful. Just a fun fact that I can take no credit for: Sadie's father, Coby, won the breed at Westminster and placed third in the group. She is a character. Stuey can't brag like Sadie but did have a champion father and I think he is a most handsome fellow.

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i am reading everyones posts and have noticed no one is feeding their dogs chicken. is there a reason for this? i feed my dog chicken welness and need to find a non wheat treat, he can't eat beef, and when i had switched treats, he gained 2 lbs so i am hesitant to change food for this reason. he has a sensative belly, was once on the duck and sweet potatoe but that was too rich for him so we are now on the wellness chicken.
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