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Earlier Socialization

AVSAB just released new guidelines for earlier socialization. I had trouble providing a link but if you search .... AVSAB socialization ... it will take you to the article.

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I think this should get you to the link to the pdf file. Very interesting - my quick take was that even though they haven't had all their vaccinations to somehow get them socialized before the age of three months. I know that all the fear surrounding a puppy without all it's vaccinations did make a negative impact on proper socialization of my Keeshond puppy. We're lucky these Havanese are small and can at least be taken around in carriers and strollers.

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Desilu has been at an agility trial, obedience trial, rally trial, or some other doggie event practically every weekend of his life since he was 8 weeks old. As far as I was concerned, early socialization was critical and worth the risk. (Mind you, I'm talking organized events with performance show dogs, not hanging out at the local dog park.)

Clean Run (an agility magazine) ran an article a few years ago about a study that was conducted on wolves who lived on a remote island (I want to say in Michigan). Because these wolves had been isolated for hundreds of years, they were not exposed to parvo and therefore had NO immunity/tolerance to it. One pay, the wolves all died. What happened? One of the researchers tracked the parvo virus to the island on his shoes. Tragic. The point of the article? You could just as easily track the virus home to your puppy. So why try to keep them in a bubble when you can't really protect them anyhow and sacrifice the early socialization.

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Acquaintances of mine recently brought home a Labradoodle pup and have not let him out of the house for 5 weeks as he hasn't had all his shots yet. The dog is going crazy, biting, chewing, romping, jumping up. He hasn't had any exercise, or any play for bite inhibition. I worry that they will now think he has "behavior problems". What that kid has is a need for exercise and puppy play. Early socialization and exercise come together, making a calm well-adjusted dog.

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I am so lucky that I live in such a great area for dogs. I take Riley to a puppy play class 2xweek and there's even a havanese play date at this place each Wednesday! All these classes are $5 which covers the trainer being there, to moderate and teach, and the screening process. All the puppies have to have an ok from their vet and go to a 1 time temperment test with the trainer.

While I understand the health concerns of taking a puppy to dog parks when they are not completely immunized, I think that we, as a nation, have developed such germ phobias... We want to wrap our children and pets in bubble wrap and we are SO overdoing it sometimes....(don't get me started!)

Great article!!! Thanks.

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Jean, I'm with you on the germ phobia thing. Caution is good, overreaction is not. There are some breeders who do not beleive in any vaccines whatsoever. None. The puppies manage to be perfectly healthy and beautiful. Dogs managed to survive as pets for hundreds of years without vaccines. Parvo is horrible, no doubt but I'd rather let my puppy play with other dogs that I know, or attend a puppy training class, or romp in my own yard than risk a dog I couldn't live with because it never was properly socialized.


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