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is this good or bad?

Many of you know my trials with Jasper, my very independent, insecure alpha, who really wants to be an omega dog. But one of the things about Jasper that was always good was he was totally independent, would prefer to spend time by himself in his room on his chair, and was never phased by what we did or things like thunder.

Lately, he has been very watchful of us. If one of us goes up stairs he will sit at the bottom of the steps so he can watch both of us. And if there is a storm, like right now, he will come and lie down between my chair and the wall. He does not look anxious, is not whimpering, or cowering just sitting next to me and staying there. Part of me thinks it is good that he is looking to me for comfort (and I love his attention.) But another part thinks it is yet another phobia that could escalate. So I have not been coddling him when he does this.

He is now 2 1/2-- what are your thoughts?




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I don't know what to do about these things, but I have noticed my two getting more clingy as they get older. I think it is just part of their personality because they are so smart and super sensitive. They tend to pick up on things very easily. My two can tell if I have sweats on, they know I will be at home. But, if I put my jeans on, they will start following me all over, because they know I am probably heading out.


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Missy, maybe he's just trying to 'protect' you during the storm or just keep you company? He doesn't sound like he's scared.

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Missy I am not sure that Jasper is Alpha other that with Cash. I believe dogs do not consider us as dogs therefore that is mute. It is a dogs nature to be social and to be with us. If they are off by themselves too much there is a reason. You should welcome when they are with you and yes you do not need to coddle them to reasure them all the time. I am not quite sure what his problem is. But it is not normal to be alone quite a bit.

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Dave, yes I do treasure that Jasper has become more social with us as he has aged. We have been to many trainers and experts about his "independence." or sometimes it seems like depression. He checks out physically--and even temperment he only has a few kinks that we are working on. and he is very sweet and friendly when we have visitors... Me and my DH joke that we bore him...but believe me it is not for lack of trying.

thanks all for the reassurance.




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Me and my DH joke that we bore him...but believe me it is not for lack of trying.
LOL! That made me chuckle.

I think you have two very different Havanese, much like so many people have two very different children. They interact with you differently and it is sweet. As they grow, a lot of them will change their ways - whether that be a need to be underfoot or investigating everything. I think it is just a part of maturity. It doesn't sound like anything to be concerned about.

Jasper is just being Jasper - and it sounds like you might want to consider dropping him off at my house when you go on vacation. I love reading about him!
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LOL! That made me chuckle.

I think you have two very different Havanese, much like so many people have two very different children. They interact with you differently and it is sweet. As they grow, a lot of them will change their ways - whether that be a need to be underfoot or investigating everything. I think it is just a part of maturity. It doesn't sound like anything to be concerned about.

Jasper is just being Jasper - and it sounds like you might want to consider dropping him off at my house when you go on vacation. I love reading about him!
Kimberly, thank you for this--He really is a sweetheart and really has a very special way about him. I am glad to know that you can see through my worry to his very unique (and dare I say almost human-like) personality.

Now, an invitation like dropping him off at your house is too good to pass up.
Can Cash come too? If only they weren't too big to fit in a sherpa bag!!!




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We have on girl who honestly does not care what we do. She is only interested in us when she can sleep on the bed with us while we watch tv and have her tummy scratched. She perks up when you say the word cookie but other than that she just watches everyone. She is a real cutie but hates showing. We tried several times and she just does not want to be bothered. We joke that she only wants us to watch tv with and next will want us to feed her bon bons while she watches. She is the alpha dog of the house, no one messes with her toys, her spot in the kitchen or anything else. The other dogs all know she is boss. don't mess with her. It is very funny...and she is very sweet when she wants your attention. They really may just be different dogs.
Some dogs do go through a second "fear" stage. I am not sure of the age, but our little alpha girl did do this around age 2. It only lasted a month or two and she snapped out of it....sort of like a teenager!

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I have to agree with Kimberly's statement about them being individuals. I notice with my two, while be very much alike in certain ways, in other ways they are totally different. And that is just their individual personalities.

Kodi is much more laid back. Shelby has definitely emerged as the more alpha. Last night we were all in bed watching TV and DH put his head near Shelby. He made the mistake of invading her space and she let him know it with a growl and little bark. She does the same thing to Kodi. She does not, and will not do that to me.


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Lately, he has been very watchful of us. If one of us goes up stairs he will sit at the bottom of the steps so he can watch both of us. And if there is a storm, like right now, he will come and lie down between my chair and the wall. He does not look anxious, is not whimpering, or cowering just sitting next to me and staying there. Part of me thinks it is good that he is looking to me for comfort (and I love his attention.) But another part thinks it is yet another phobia that could escalate. So I have not been coddling him when he does this.

He is now 2 1/2-- what are your thoughts?
Missy, sounds like a normal Havanese to me!

My Sheltie was somewhat independent and didn't mind going off to be alone yet it was clear she loved us and was engaged. I think Kimberly is right, they all have such different personalities. Each are unique and we love them all for who they are
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