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My family has been in contact with two breeders about getting a puppy. One breeder will have males ready to go home at 12 weeks old and another should have females ready to go home at 9 weeks old. Given everything being equal which should we go with? Is there a big difference in temperament between a 9 week old vs. a 12 week old? Will the 12 week old be more well behaved (if that's even possible for a puppy ) than a 9 week old? Will it be easier to potty train a 12 week old vs a 9 week old?

My daughter wants a female, perhaps due to the fact that she's a girl too, but I don't really care. Besides the age difference when we bring the puppy home do you feel there's a big difference between a male vs a female?


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post #2 of 44 (permalink) Old 06-12-2008, 10:48 AM
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The difference in the puppies will depend mostly on the temperament of the parents (temperament is the most heritable trait), and how the puppies were raised. I think you should go meet both puppies and then decide. If everything were equal, you'd benefit by taking home a 12-week old puppy vs. a 9-week pup.

For a single dog, I don't think gender will make that big of a difference, but I prefer the males for pets. I find them easier to train, especially potty training.
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Kimberly, what is the benefit of the older pup? Development? Just curious and want to learn. =)

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Our Bella was between 10 and 11 weeks old when we got her and I'm glad we waited that long. She was around the older dogs and the other puppies longer so she was socialized well. Our breeder was very careful to socialize in every way as well as to go through brain development exercises.

But in your case, I wonder if there is that much difference in just three weeks. Sounds like you "win-win" no matter what you choose!
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One thought about the older pups...if you read the forum threads on potty training, you will see that it can be a real challenge for Havs - well, some of them. Check on the potty training effort that the breeder has been doing. If they aren't started on potty training in a box or pads, 12 weeks is pretty old to be working on the basics.

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After 10 weeks, they should be clear of the first fear period. If the breeder has been working with them, they will be much farther along in learning manners, potty training, crate training, etc. It all depends on what each of the breeders does with the puppies. It also depends if the puppies have been around the larger dogs or confined to a puppy pen. Pups that have been around the older dogs will be reprimanded by the older ones and should be better behaved.

In my opinion, three weeks is a huge age difference when they are that young.
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I go along with temperament . . . and the breeder you choose. I got Bailey at just under 9 weeks old and anticipated problems. Because of his temperament, which is great, we avoided some issues many others have had. My choice would have been to get him a bit later. I think the more time they spend with mama and the basic training she gives them, the better for you.

All that having been said, ultimately you should go with that pit of your stomach feeling that tells you what's right for you . . . and good luck with whatever little darling you bring into your family.

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I think temperment is more important than sex.

I have no experience with an older pup, I got Gucci when she was 8 weeks, and I prefer that, getting them soon as possible so I can train and socialize them to my family and lifestyle, but then again, it really depends on what you are up for. I don't think there is a big, huge difference in 3 weeks. I think Gucci probably got more attention 1 on 1 with me than she could've with a breeder, but I had read a gazillion books and forums, etc. so I was pretty well prepared for the puppy-phase. Good luck and congratulations! I think you'll be smitten with either sex.

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post #9 of 44 (permalink) Old 06-12-2008, 11:37 AM
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Our breeder told us to come visit her, meet the puppies and the parents and then choose. One mommy was called Houdini because she could get out of anything so we didn't choose one of her pups! When we saw all of her puppies we played with them and Scooter just seemed right, we all fell in love with him immediately!

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post #10 of 44 (permalink) Old 06-12-2008, 11:41 AM
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LOL! Smart move, Ann! When a breeder nicknames a pup by Houdini that's a big clue!

Thumperlove, I was taking from a breeder's point of view. 9 weeks to 12 weeks is a huge difference when they've been around other dogs, including their momma who is teaching them bite inhibition among other things, and socialized and trained.

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