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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 03-20-2007, 11:58 AM Thread Starter
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Dry food without FLAX?

Hello All: wondering if you could do me a favor and check your bags of kibble for flax as an ingredient. I have spent hours in my pet store reading ingredients. The "pro plan chicken and rice puppy" I am feeding both Cash and now Jasper doesn't have it- and Jasper's itching has almost stopped....yeah. But, his tear and beard staining has returned. By my own investigation (not scientific) I feel that JAS was reacting to flax and that something in the Pro-Plan is encouraging yeast- wheat perhaps?) So I am looking for a higher end kibble that I can feed them both, without flax or wheat. (the Bravo site referenced flax making dogs itchy)

I have found two so far. Timberwolf, wild and natural which is a grain free but does have potato for carbs. And Innova adult- but not puppy.

Does anyone have experiece with these two foods- the timberwolf looks kind of rich. Would the Innova adult be ok for a 4 1/2 month old puppy?

I am very torn, because for the first time in his 14 months- Jasper is eating kibble with just a little wet food (evangers 100% meat) mixed in. But I hate the stains, but I love that he is not as itchy. But I guess I am also a little bit of a snob and would like them to be eating something other than Purina.

thanks for your help.




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Missy, I used to give Ricky Innova dry kibble for puppies and wouldn't recommend the adult version for a while yet, I dont' think. I hear it is quite rich and can be a strain on some kidneys... I think ..? I am slowly changing Ricky's to adult because at 8 mths., he's def. big enough and doesn't need the puppy stuff anymore. He'll probably be on it fulltime in a few weeks.

That food, "Natural Balance" has flaxseed oil, but so far no negative effects on Ricky.




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Hi Missy, I feed Sam Royal Canin "Shih Tzu" food. It doesn't have flax or flaxseed but it does have wheat gluten. Sam does have tear stains

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My first two Havs were on Innova (puppy first, then adult) and it was a little too rich for their systems. Whenever we had a major change in our routine (trip for the weekend, vaccines, etc.), we ended up with very loose stools for three-five days. Since I keep my dogs in a full coat, that was not a pleasant experience. I utilize three different veterinarians and started using Innova kibble based on the advice of one. The second vet informed me that even though the ingredients are very good, it may be too rich for a sensitive Havanese stomach. I left Innova (despite my agreement that I did like the ingredient list) and haven't had any loose stools (except for illness) in almost two years.

That doesn't answer your flax or wheat gluten question, but I just wanted to tell you about my Innova experience. I love the company, but no longer use it for my Havs.
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What food do you give them now?
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Missy - I really like Innova and never had problems with the food being too rich for Bugsy. I currently feed all three Evo (also by Innova), it is all meat, no grain, no flaxseed food. It is very rich, as all the high protein diets. But, they do put out Evo RM (stand for Red Meat) and Evo RF (stands for Reduced fat). The Evo RF has quite a bit less fat than regular Evo. Both regular and RM Evo have 42% protein, 22% fat and reduced has 52% protein and 15.5% fat. None have flaxseed.

Having said that, Bugsy currently decided to go on food strike and it takes all my effort to get him to eat 1/4 cup of kibble mixed with soft the entire day and a few kibbles here and there....sigh. He used to eat 1/4 cup 3 times a day. He is not sick and is as payful and active as ever. He would prefer to eat just table food.....sigh.

Kimberly - what do you feed your dogs?

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Doggie Nut & Julia, I feed a blend of Purina Pro Plan (puppy small breed formula) with Avoderm (kibble) and dry egg yolk and salmon oil (Kronch brand) mixed into it.

I have two girls with itchy skin, so I may move to Avoderm exclusively, but I have a pregnant bitch so I won't do any more changes until she is done nursing her puppies. A complete food change is too drastic.
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Thanks Kimberly,

Any advice on my picky baby? Do I listen to my hubby and just let him be hungry until he eats? I've done it with my previous dog, but he was a large English Setter and I wasn't worried about him becoming hypoglysemic.

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My advice would be to read the chapter on feeding in "The Havanese" by Diane Klumb. Many Havanese will act picky and even forego eating for a day or two.

However, if your veterinarian believes that your dog is hypoglycemic, then you need to listen to her/his advice on feeding.
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Thanks again Kimberly,

I will refer back to the book....totally forgot about that chapter. And no, Bugsy is not hypoglycemic at all.

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