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Now that he's ok...something to watch for

Now that my dog is home and safe, I'm going to post about this. Lightning has been in the doggie hospital with HGE and just came home today. I keep hearing of so many dogs getting this and the warning signs of it can vary from dog to dog. With Lightning, he vomited on my bed once then finished throwing up on the cedar chest at the end of the bed and that was his only symptom at that time. A lot of dogs will eat grass and throw up, but Lightning isn't one of them so I kept a close eye on him. That was around 1 in the afternoon on the day he got this and around 1 am he had a bowel movement filled with blood. Other dogs I've heard about have started off with small or large amounts of blood from the rectum, and some have had mostly vomiting. I'm told that the faster the care the better the chance your dog has of making it. Judging from what others have said that may or may not be right. It seems if your dog gets this that they either get it bad or mild, but without treatment it can go bad.
When Lightning came home today he spent about 15 minutes 'talking' to anyone who would listen and telling us all about what he's been through. It was funny as heck to listen to him and oh it felt good to laugh. The other dogs all paid attention to every arooooo he had to say so I wonder if they understood him? I've never seen something like that before and it was cute.
Thank goodness we're one of the lucky ones and can have a good 4th.......a tired one, but a very blessed one.

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Oh no! I am so sorry! A friend of mine just had one of her dogs go thru the same thing. So scary!
I am so happy he his home safe and healthy. Thanks for telling us what to look for. Do you have any idea how they get HGE?


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Jan, what does HGE stand for? I'm in the dark.... Thank goodness he is okay! He reminds me so much of my boy, Cooper who is Ellie's brother. They have beautiful faces.


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I'm so glad he is better. Is this the "dog flu" I've been reading about? My DD's dog got sick last year and they could not give her a definite diagnosis, just a lot of might be this or that. Very similar symptoms.


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Thank goodness you caught it early and Lightening is ok.
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Jan, I'm so glad Lightening is okay. It's a very scary disease.

Here's a really good explanation.
Hemorrhagic GastroEnteritis (HGE) in Dogs

By Janet Tobiassen Crosby, DVM, About.com



What does HGE stand for?
HGE (at least in terms of veterinary medicine) stands for Hemorrhagic GastroEnteritis, and it is a disease of dogs.
What are the signs seen with HGE in dogs?
The most notable sign seen with HGE is a very sudden onset of bloody diarrhea in a previously healthy dog. Vomiting, not eating (anorexia), and listlessness are also seen. Dehydration is not usually clinically seen on initial presentation, but shock can develop quickly without treatment.
What causes HGE?
At this time, the exact cause of this disease is unknown. There are many theories - diet, a bacterial infection or bacterial toxin, virus, reaction to an intestinal parasite, etc. - but nothing has been proven. Stress may play a role in the development of HGE. Dogs that have an episode of HGE may be prone to another occurrence. Many dogs never experience HGE.
What breeds/ages/gender of dog are more susceptible?
Toy and miniature breeds of dogs, ages 2 to 4, are the types of dogs most commonly seen, but HGE can affect any breed, gender, and age. There is no gender predilection (HGE occurs equally in males and females).
How is HGE diagnosed?
HGE is diagnosed primarily by ruling out other causes of bloody diarrhea. The sudden appearance of bloody diarrhea and a high packed cell volume (PCV) in a previously healthy dog rule in favor of the HGE diagnosis. Other causes of gastrointestinal bleeding that must be considered as possibilities and subsequently ruled out include:
This sounds serious - is it a fatal disease?
Left untreated, this can be a deadly disease. However, with prompt veterinary care, most dogs respond to treatment and recover.
How is HGE treated?
The mainstay of treatment is aggressive supportive care -- no food or water by mouth for 1-4 days, and intravenous (IV) fluid therapy with Potassium added to the fluids. Antibiotics are also recommended (IV, subcutaneous). Food should be reintroduced slowly and, in the event that the HGE is food related, a new (novel) protein should be given that the dog doesn't usually eat, i.e. chicken, lamb or cottage cheese.
What is the success rate? Do dogs recover from this?
With aggressive supportive care, most dogs recover within a few days. Some dogs can have repeated episodes of HGE.
What should I do if I see vomiting or diarrhea in my pet? Is it an emergency?
This is a hard question to answer, because there are so many causes for vomiting and / or diarrhea. As for any situation that is "not normal" for your pet, it is always recommended that you call your veterinarian and discuss what is going on. Your veterinarian will be able to advise you if it is a situation that can wait or if it sounds like an emergency.
Source: The Merck Veterinary Manual 8th edition, pg 302
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Oh no! I am so sorry! A friend of mine just had one of her dogs go thru the same thing. So scary!
I am so happy he his home safe and healthy. Thanks for telling us what to look for. Do you have any idea how they get HGE?
Nobody really knows how they get HGE. This vet is blaming the new bag of Halo dog food. The dogs loved the food until I got this new bag and then they ignored the food after eating it once......then Lightning got sick. My standard poodle threw up from the bottom of her stomach after Lightning got sick and then I thought I was going to have 2 in the doggie hospital but she bounced back with nothing further. The last few days have sure been heck here. I hope nobody else ever has to go through this but it seems to be growing with more dogs getting it instead of going away.

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Jan, what does HGE stand for? I'm in the dark.... Thank goodness he is okay! He reminds me so much of my boy, Cooper who is Ellie's brother. They have beautiful faces.
It's a family affair on here Hi Jennifer. How is Cooper doing? Ellie is still the clown of the house and always keeps us laughing.

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Thank goodness you caught it early and Lightening is ok.
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I'm so glad he is better. Is this the "dog flu" I've been reading about? My DD's dog got sick last year and they could not give her a definite diagnosis, just a lot of might be this or that. Very similar symptoms.
It might be Michele. How was the dog treated?

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