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post #1 of 52 (permalink) Old 08-04-2008, 01:15 PM Thread Starter
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Thoughts on me getting another dog

Think about my situation specifically. Gryff is 100% totally about me and me alone. He will have almost nothing to do with my husband or my son. He won't let either of them take him out for potty. He can be having a great time playing with my husband, but if I walk out of the room, he follows me. If I'm not home, he will wait for me by the door instead of hanging out with Chuck or Alec. My family feels cheated, as though they don't have a dog at all.

What do you think would happen if we got another dog? I am concerned that Gryff may get jelous and turn violent towards it or my son. What if it backfires and now I have two dogs that won't have anything to do with the rest of my family.

I really need some advice. I can't believe how expensive Gryff is turning out to be - especially if I have to pony up for another dog just to get the satisfaction of having a family dog.

My husband is starting to think we should do a trade in. Of course, I am not going to even discuss that. However yesterday Chuck and I were in the yard working and Gryff was by the front door whining. Alec went to pet him and got bit. I can't have that going on either.

What do you think?

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post #2 of 52 (permalink) Old 08-04-2008, 01:35 PM
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Wow, your situation is quite complicated. I think if you'd like to try getting a second dog, I'd suggest working very closely with a good, reputable Hav breeder who will allow you to "try out" the prospective dog. Lincoln and Scout's breeder, and many other good ones here, care very much about placing their pups in a good situation and would much rather do a trial and take the dog back if it doesn't work out than to leave a dog in a situation that just isn't working out.

I am sorry to hear Gryff tried to bite Alec and hope things will improve between them.

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post #3 of 52 (permalink) Old 08-04-2008, 01:48 PM
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That's a tough call Ivy. I agree with Jane about trying to find a breeder who will REALLY work with you instead of simply selling you a puppy. It sounds like the issues between Gryff and Alec, while better, are still not entirely resolved. I can see your husband's and son's positions too. They would like a dog that belongs to them too. I'm certainly no help. I can see it going either way. Either Gryff is happy to be just your dog and will let a puppy take up the slack with the other family members or he'll be possesive of all of you and resent the presence of a puppy.
I know Gryff has been to a play date but has anyone actually brought a dog to your house? If so, how does Gryff react when you, your husband or your son interact with that other dog?

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Susan, he's fine with that. We have several dogs in the neighborhood who pop over now and again. We can all play with the visiting dog without Gryff getting upset.

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I am so sorry to hear about Gryff biting Alec. It must be hard to deal with Gryff being so attached to you.

I agree with Jane. Jane and I have the same breeder. When I decided to get the second one, the breeder recommended a trial period at our home as well as picked the puppy that was best suited for Benji's temperament. She made sure that they both would thrive in our home. I also kept Benji and Lizzie with the breeder for a few days so that they could bond and the breeder could observe their interaction. They both bonded well and I was able to get her guidance when they came back.

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That's a good start. It couldn't hurt to just talk with a breeder and explain your situation in depth and see what they say.

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So, Gryff actually bit him, not just went to bite him?! Oh crap Ivy! Well, this is not good and I don't know if an added dog would help you all.

Are you back to feeding him and letting him sleep with you and is Alec still doing classes? I think you just have to not be the one feeding him, and maybe you just can't trust Gryff to be with Alec alone, I guess I wouldn't. You need to be there to make if clear to Gryff that is not okay to growl or bite ANYONE in your pack. I think too it could get nasty. Okay, actually I don't know what I'm saying...this just stinks.
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Ivy,
I think you need to get a handle on Gryff before you could ever bring in another dog and expect different results. I must sound like a broken record,but YOU need to set the guidelines for Gryff and EVERYONE needs to be on board. What good are rules if they are only applied part of the time? Gryff is going to do what Gryff wants(including biting)as long as YOU allow it. There's is no way any dog of mine would have bite 2....not because of being mean,but because I wouldn't allow it.My dogs respect me as a leader...and my husband and my daughter and my son. Do you see what I mean?

I thought Gryff passed a CGC test? How could he do that and still bite?

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He passed the CGC test and the Therapy Dog test. I suppose if it was my husband or son holding the leash and not me he wouldn't have passed. If Alec tries to take him out, he digs his heels in so hard that Alec is practically dragging him - which is why I don't really want Alec taking Gryff out. I don't want Gryff to get hurt and then blame Alec for it.

It really shouldn't be this difficult to have a dog!

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Ivy let Alec drag him. Seriously. I don't think he's going to get hurt and he needs to know Alec is higher than he is in your pack. There is no reason he shouldn't learn to walk on the leash for Alec, who is, if I remember correctly eight? My son is eight and of course Posh always brings her toy back to me when they are playing retrieve, but he keeps with the game and I always say to her "I'm not playing, go bring it to Sage." He'll figure out that it's much more fun to walk with Alec than drag with Alec. Alec can keep it positive and tell him how good he's being when he walks well. Also, my son has just started going to agility with me, and I think my mom is going to let him run with her sheltie mix on the course. Is this a fun activity you could do with Gryff and Alec and let Alec be the junior handler?
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