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those of you with three...

So some of you know that I have involved practically all of Washington State in my obsession over a little girl I found on petfinder. I know very little about her, other than she came in as a stray. Lynn (casper and missy's mom) has kindly offered to "interview" her for me (or for others if DH puts his foot down and reason wins out over my heart) But should she turn out to be the perfect little girl for us-- I need to really assess the reality of having 3.

I am looking for down right gut wrenching honesty here, as I need no help in the MHS/IWAP department. Please share with me the WORST things about going from 2 to three (and after you do that you can throw in some of the good things too)

As you think on this, try to keep my boys in mind. Cash, doesn't like to share, but does love to play, and Jasper is moody but has been known to follow sweet little girls around but rarely plays. If I did add a third- what temperment would be the best for this dynamic?

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Missy, I don't have any advice but I started laughing when I saw this thread. Tell DH just to give up now - he's fighting a losing battle!

Good Luck! (If not on this one, on whatever one you find...)

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Well Missy, I've had four dogs, three, two and one. I can honestly say that two is terrific and if you love the way things are now perhaps it's best not upset the apple cart. Now for the even better news - I truly love having three dogs. Especially if they aren't too close in ages when you run into end of life vet expenses. Plus you're considering having a female join your two males. You aren't likely to run into any of the same sex issues by adding this particular pup. The other thought is that when Jasper is in one of his funks (if he ever does again) then Cash has someone who's high energy to play with. Also, sometimes once Jasper watches Cash have fun with someone else, he'll learn how to play with even more abandon. As long as this girl seems to get along well with other Havanese and your type of lifestyle (lots of kids, travel, no kids, whatever) then I think you've got yourself a winning combination. My one last thought is the boarding expenses when you have to travel - can you afford? Three truly changes your boarding options - I much prefer to have a pet sitter come in and compared to boarding costs at a good facility, it makes a lot more financial sense.


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Missy,WARNING-I am the wrong one to hear from.


Now if you still want to hear it....




Isabelle has never played in her life and now that we have Dash it is non-stop! I was just telling Kathy they almost have a sick obsession over each other. It has made Belle such a better dog though and I never thought Dash was for her, he was suppose to be for Dora. I took Dasher with me for a night away while we were visiting family. Jim said Belle was such a monster without Dash! The other day was Belle's grooming day and she was a mess. As you can imagine with all that puppy teeth always on her. Dasher was running around the house crying as he wanted Belle. I put him in the xpen cause he was driving me crazy and he was barking and carrying on.

Now I will give you the more work part. I really have trouble handling all 3 dogs on a leash. I usually walk one or two at a time. It is harder to sneak 3 in places (if you are one of those people that do that!). Obviously the vet costs, etc.

I was always told you should never get a dog higher energy than the dogs you already have. I will say Dash is probably higher energy than Dora. However, Dora has laid him out. When he starts getting out of control now, Dora will jump on him and stand over him and not let him move. It usually shocks him for a few mins but he runs away and calms down. However, I think it works because Dasher probably has the most pleasing attitude of any dog that I have ever had. For training, I dont have a leash on him cause he is right by my side wanting more and not giving up.

Just some of my thoughts but I am wondering how much your mind is already made up!

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Missy,

I kind of mentioned this in the "Blue eyes" thread, but the older I've gotten, the more I've come to believe in "Everything for a purpose".

You see puppies all the time but something about her is different. Things are almost working themselves into place. When you see something special to you, you know it. Sometimes you just have to find the right path for things to work out.

As far as the downside of 3, other than the obvious costs, the biggest problem I have is not being able to easily walk 3 at once. It's not impossible. I have the leash with 3 leads, but my dogs aren't really close in size or disposition. When we all go to the vet at the same time it's a bit of a challenge, a handful. When one starts barking at a squirrel, they all start barking so it get's louder.

I haven't had any problems as far as feeding or fighting. I also haven't noticed any jealosy issues. We all sleep together in a king size bed without any trouble.

I didn't go out looking for Winston, but he was a rescue and needed a home and now I wouldn't dream of giving him up, plus my DH adores him. With 3, if one wants to sleep, but one wants to play, the other one might play.

BTW, what's her new name going to be, or are we gonna play the name game?
Best of luck Missy, trust your heart.

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Bringing another dog into the house can change the dynamics of the pack. You could wind up with a really playful group as one will usually egg on another and then the game is on.
With 3 you'll spend more time with the dogs because they still need one on one time.
If one acts up, another may follow and on the other hand, the trained ones help train the new one.
With 3 you need to be the leader of the pack with no doubt that you are. As much as I preach NILF, I find myself slipping from it every now and then and it shows in my dogs and I know it's time to get back to it.
You can walk 3 on one side of you and a lot of it is in your position in the pack and the personalities of the dogs.
Treat time can get a little more complicated. They need to know that they have to have patience and trying to grab will get them nowhere.
I used to be a one dog person. I can't even imagine going back to those days now

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Oh goodness - you'll get the hang of walking three - I use to walk four at a time ranging in size from 65 to 9 lbs. Pretty funny when you hung the newborn 2L on my chest as I walked them twice a day. When 2L #2 came along, I just added a double stroller and the dogs learned to walk two per side staying away from the wheels. Yes, we were quite a spectacle, but I wouldn't give up those walks for anything.


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Oh goodness - you'll get the hang of walking three - I use to walk four at a time ranging in size from 65 to 9 lbs. Pretty funny when you hung the newborn 2L on my chest as I walked them twice a day. When 2L #2 came along, I just added a double stroller and the dogs learned to walk two per side staying away from the wheels. Yes, we were quite a spectacle, but I wouldn't give up those walks for anything.
That would make a darling picture!!!
The only way I've walked 4 dogs is 3 small ones on one side of me and a standard poodle on the other.

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Obviously, Missy, I don't have 3 Havs, but logic tells me it would make a big difference in our lives, as opposed to having 2. I worry that it would be more of a hassle to get in and out of the van, buckling harnesses on all of them, making sure they 'stay' and not run off while I'm busy with one or two of them. The expenses is a huge deal too, insurance, food, vet, supplies, crate, classes, etc....

I think about the bell by the patio door and just how often it would ring should there be 3 doing it! lol I'd be up and down like a yoyo getting them in and out, making sure they don't bark at the neighbors' yet again, or don't charge the fence because the Boxer dares be in his yard too. Then, in our case, which friends/family would now allow us to bring ALL the dogs over when we visit? We have 3 or 4 places we can go with our two, but three?? I know that almost all would say, 'sorry. too many dogs now' We'd have to leave them home alone more often, I'm sure.

We were very lucky to have someone offer to watch our two this past week while on vacation, but I don't know of anyone who would watch 3. That means our outing with or without our kids would be limited and is that fair to our human kids? sigh........ For us, for now, it doesn't make sense to add a third Hav, but my heart still hopes that one day. Maybe one day .......

Just some honest thoughts from someone who's been there with hoping she could have a third.




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Having four, I don't see it as a big hassle. The only difficulty in any of it from my point of view was/is the potty training (though Bailey seems to have it down pat). They somehow find their own place in the pack and they each have a special place in my heart.

I know you've been wanting to add a girl to the group for a long time but I wonder how much of that is wishful thinking and how much is "I really have to do this." If you're confident it's what you really want, I'd say go for it. I also believe it might change the dynamic in a positive way with the boys.

Good luck whichever way you go.

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