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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 09-03-2008, 08:53 PM Thread Starter
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Riley the Nipper

Riley is almost 6 months old and has gotten so much better with the puppy chewing and mouthing. However, when he gets excited, he can nip. I've had him go RLH while on his leash and jump up and nip my butt. NOT FUNNY. And Laura on the forum here can tell you that he nipped her on the nose at Paula's house.

Today on the way to a play date, we were walking in town and a group of people came by. Riley was all excited because he knew where we were going. One of the women pointed down at him and he jumped up and nipped her finger. He didn't make a mark...but BOY did I catch hell from this lady! I apologized over and over but she went on and on about my vicious dog and how he should be on a muzzle and tranquilized. I am NOT exaggerating. Seriously, she was the one who needed the valium.

Still...I am NOT happy with this behavior. I've definately been firm when he does it to me, which is seldom and always in play, not anger. Any suggestions? And, will he grow out of this? I don't need him nipping a child!

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Cazzie nips me on my butt when he sees me leaving. He's now a year and a half old. I have put him on his back when he does this and tell him firmly NO!, but he is so frenzied when I leave it doesn't make much difference. So we are considering very seriously getting a bark collar. Any other suggestions?
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Paula, Shelby does that same thing - jumps up and bites your butt. She did it to DH tonight. We got home later than usual, and she was just so excited, actually crying, and we weren't paying her enough attention. So she bit him on the butt.


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Marley did some nipping and ankle biting when he was really little, but is slowly outgrowing it with a lot of help from firm "NOs" on our end. We did get him young (8 weeks) and I always wondered if that had something to do with it, as many breeders say that it's better to wait a little longer and let Mama do the discipline training...
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Cazzie nips me on my butt when he sees me leaving. He's now a year and a half old. I have put him on his back when he does this and tell him firmly NO!, but he is so frenzied when I leave it doesn't make much difference. So we are considering very seriously getting a bark collar. Any other suggestions?
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Suzy, Lola developed pretty severe Separation Anxiety when she was about 10 mos. NOw she is 13 mos and I have been working it intensively for the past 3 weeks because I got a complaint from the condo board that she was barking when I was away. I did not realize she was doing that.

Have you worked on SA at all with Cazzie? It can take a lot of time, but you have to do it if they are going to behave.

For a while I tried a citronella bark collar, and I guess it helped, because I sure smelled the citronella when I got back home. I was using it because I was carting Lola to try to get her to stop soiling when I left. It did not work. Now she has the run of the condo, but still will bark and poop if she's freaked out when I leave. We are working through it, every day more desensitizing to my leaving cues, me leaving for short periods of time, etc.

Oy vay! I hope it works eventually. Lola was doing great for 3 weeks, no barking or soiling. Then seemed to regress on Sunday - barked like mad and pooped to the point of diarrhea. Maybe that is the last burst before she finally calms down. I hope. I left 2x today and had to practice leaving 3 times before I really did leave to get her not barking.

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I think Scooter has SA too. He doesn't cry in his crate at night when it's time for bed but he won't go in on his own. He sits next to our bed hoping he'll get to sleep with us! LOL He goes in a crate in the laundry room when we leave the house and he cries every time. If I leave a treat in there for him he pushes it out where he can't reach it so I give it to him when I get back. I'm never gone for more than 3 hours but I can tell he's cried a lot because he drinks so much water when I get home. I don't know what to do for him so he isn't so upset. Any advice is greatly appreciated!!!

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Pele' doesn't bite my rear, but I think it is because he is too small. But boy is he an ankle biter. My trainer has told me to quickly whip around, step into his space (not on him, just in his space enough to move him back), and use a very curt and firm no!!! I've been doing this for about 4 days and it is really working. The trainer told me to not back off. That if when you step in their space, if they come at you again, then to step in their space again. If they continue to come at you, then it is time for a time out. Like the x-pen or crate. She says this is to teach that if they don't play nice, they don't get to play. The crate or x-pen is not a punishment, stopping the interaction with our favorite human is the punishment. I have very high hopes that this is going to work, because the nipping is very, very annoying.

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It seems too bad to discipline Cazzie for his separation anxiety. He's just so anxious when I leave! He doesn't bark, though, after I'm gone, but sits and waits and waits and waits....
But the barking fits (and nipping) have got to go. In the winter, we are in a mobile home park and I'm sure the neighbors don't want to hear his frenzied barking. He's teaching Chelsie to bark too! As soon as he thinks I am going away...putting on my makeup, going into the bathroom, putting on hand lotion, getting on my shoes, he goes into his barking frenzy and leaps up to nip my behind. I don't know what to do! He isn't responding to being laid on his back, mother-dog style, or being talked to sternly. Oh one more thing, and you may think this is funny...his frenzy is also set off when he sees me getting the garbage bag in the kitchen ready to go to the trash can outside! Cazzie, you little wierdo, I'm just going out the door to the trash can! I will be right back! I even take him with me but that doesn't help. He's very smart about many things but not about knowing that I WILL be coming back.
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Riley gave up on biting my pant legs with a quick squirt from a water bottle and a firm "NO". It doesn't hurt him and the surprise is pretty effective.

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Suzy - the first stage of the SA training is to start the steps for getting ready to leave and then NOT leaving. So you can desensitize him to those activities and not get him into such a frenzy. You grab the keys, put on the lotion, and then sit down in the living room like home as usual. And do that frequently throughout the day, over several days, so the activities are not a signal for the end of the world! That may work for the chaos.

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