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Any one with a patio and living close?

We live in an area called tall and skinny. The lots are 25 feet wide by 100 feet long. Our house is three levels, and 2,500 feet on that tiny piece of land. The dogs don't really see out front because of the design of our home, so they don't bark at dogs walking in front of the house.

We have two patios off the third and second level in the back. With a fifteen foot backyard, we are often right on top of the neighbors...and now the new neighbors have moved in and have a rottweiler mix. Riki and Daisy go out on the patio and bark like mad, which means I'll have to close the patio and they won't be able to go out. I have sat with them and calmed them, told them to leave it. I met the neighbor and introduced the dogs from patios. He had his back fur all up, so he wasn't pleased either. Riki and Daisy will probably not bark at him once they have met him in person. Or so I hope. There used to be a Doxxie back there who barked constantly and drove everyone mad.

We aren't poor! Just live close to the beach and this is all we could afford. It seems insane to live almost in a condo with two dogs and a child...but we are where we are and have to learn to live with it. Any ideas of how to calm Riki down? Other neighbors will call the city and then we will have that to deal with.

On a good note, two of our friends have new dogs...poodle mixes and they both have come over our house and played with our dogs. Or played with Riki, I should say. Daisy is only interested in Riki, she has been that way since we brought her home as a puppy. She will play for a minute or two with another dog...and then she jumps in my lap. She is Riki's girl, and that is it.

It is fun to have friends ask if their dogs can come over! LOL Good thing we have pergo all over the house so we don't have to worry if an accident happens.

So I have kid playdates and doggy play dates.

We are heading back to the Ocean beach at Trumps tomorrow if any Southern Cal person wants to meet us there.

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am I worrying too much?

I just had a thought after posting. What if their dog digs under the fence? I'm going to put big bricks all along the bottom of our 25 feet width. I don't want any challenges while we or they aren't home. My dogs need to go outside to do their business.

I might be paranoid, but I've never had them close to such a big dog living wise. We have been very lucky these 11 years to have very good and quiet neighbors.

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You aren't paranoid. I have a friend who was in her front yard with their puppy and a rottweiler across the street ran across the road, even though he had an underground fence with the collar on, grabbed the puppy and killed it in front of both families. This dog had never been aggressive before. It even made the local paper. The owner of the dog had it put down because they realized it was unpredictable and they had small children. All dogs are animals even if they are our pets. I'd put the bricks down, better safe than sorry!

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Rikidaisy- I worry about the barking at our front screen door as well. I am thinking of getting a trainer to help me address this problem. I love having the front door open- but when Zeplin sees or hears people/dogs walking by- he starts to bark. My neighbors dogs are allowed in the front yard and are so passive and gentle. They never bark at him- so he is the "bad" pup. I am very consistent and will reprimand him for the barking- but it is not working.

As for the neighbors dog getting under your fence- yes- do safe guard the fence area. Our great neighbors have a brown lab and he loves to dig. We had only had Zeplin home for about 1 month when he disappeared from my yard right in front of my eyes. Apparently the lab dug a large whole on the other side of the fence and left about a 6 inch hole which I did not see due a plant growing in front of it. After 5 minutes of frantically searching my back yard I ran to my neighbors and sure enough found him and the hole. My neighbor filled it in the next day. Her dog would never have fit under the fence- but there would be nothing stopping Zeplin from egtting through small holes! Luckily their dog seems gentle enough and they have a fenced in yard as well!!!

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my husband didn't believe me...

See, he thinks I am over reacting. He didn't see the dogs hair go up when he saw my dogs. And because dogs are territorial, he naturally sees it as protecting his own very small territory.

I'm going to get some cinderblocks today.

Dogs are only doing what comes natural. Our guys look like prey to many bigger dogs who don't see too well in the first place...they see hopping and lots of white fur.

Riki has been in training not to bark. He has such an aggressive bark he could be killed as bigger dogs hear only the aggression, not the fear or false sense of bravado.

He has no idea he is only 12 pounds, he thinks he is the MAN! LOL

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There is a dog in our obedience class that SCREAMS all the time. The owners got a collar for him that when they push a remote button it makes a little sound. If he keeps barking the owner pushes it again and the collar lets out a citronella smell that evidently dogs hate. It seems to be working. Of course, try training first, lol.
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That's what the trainer just told us. You can find it online. She said it works for about 50% of dogs. It's a little box (or birdhouse) that you put by the door or outside and it emits a high pitch frequency when the dogs bark. They don't like it.
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When we first moved to LA we went to a tiny yard and our neighbor got an english bull dog who was always outside. It took the girls about a month before they would just ignore him. At first they would go insane but he just wanted some company. I didn't have the aggressive issue with him but I just had to correct the girls that they didnt get to go nuts. Eventually it was a non issue. Dodger would cry when he would see them and they would ignore him. I would do whatever you think you can for the safety especially if it is possible for him to get through the fence.

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