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Why are there toxic things on the market?!

My hairdresser recommended Paul Mitchell Tea tree shampoo for dogs. He said it might help Fred's allergic skin. He was recommended it for his dog from a holistic vet. So I check the ingredients and got the human tea tree shampoo as the dog version had cancerous ingredients. I also got the dog tea tree spray in conditioner. After bathing my guys in it and spraying the conditioner on them, I see it is highly toxic to dogs! EKKKKK!!! Thank goodness I google it but it's so frustrating that it's toxic to dogs but available to buy!

Kinda like dangerous dog bones and treats…..I need to be careful!





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Wow! Follow the money I guess. Hard to believe a holistic vet recommended it. I used that product for my dog many years ago for a similar situation. It actually didn't help because the problem was caused by food allergy/ intolerances. Took a while to figure that out.

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My hairdresser discontinued using Paul Mitchell products because she said they now have some questionable ingredients. I used to love the Tea Tree shampoo for myself but stopped using it a awhile ago. Wonder it it's toxic to humans too?


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I don't know about Paul Mitchell, but it is my understanding that tea tree oil is toxic to dogs in LARGE DOSES. There are many products for dogs, especially anti-itch or flea repellant sprays, that contain tea tree oil, and since I was considering some for my dog I googled it extensively. It bothers me that no one specifies exactly how much constitutes a large dose, or that I am to be assured that the amount contained in the products is not harmful. I do understand that many things that are normally harmless are toxic in very large doses, i.e. amounts that you would not use or consume, but it does sound like tea tree oil is something to use on dogs in only conservative amounts, and only externally, of course. I agree, it is very nervewracking!


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Ok, so I guess it's ok to use in small amounts….Good because it does help The Paul Mitchell human tea tree oil shampoo did not have the questionable ingredient. Just the doggy one….





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Linda, it sounds like most of the people reporting that their dogs had bad reactions were putting undliuted essential oil on them. This can result in very severe symptoms -- I will not go into it here, but there is plenty of hysteria about it. If using the essential oil, it is important to only use a drop or two in a pint or so of water or other liquid. Also, supposedly it is worse for cats, and you have to be careful that they not lick it off your dog (for anyone who has cats). I have been using a flea repellant spray on my dog (due to the *^$(% cat bringing in some fleas, it's always the cat's fault), and it contains cedar oil, tea tree oil, and citronella, but highly diluted, I don't remember what with. It smells great, but very mild smelling, and seems to help calm down the itching. Even so, I have great respect for any essential oils, they can be very powerful!


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You're smart to investigate it all.
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Linda, it sounds like most of the people reporting that their dogs had bad reactions were putting undliuted essential oil on them. This can result in very severe symptoms -- I will not go into it here, but there is plenty of hysteria about it. If using the essential oil, it is important to only use a drop or two in a pint or so of water or other liquid. Also, supposedly it is worse for cats, and you have to be careful that they not lick it off your dog (for anyone who has cats). I have been using a flea repellant spray on my dog (due to the *^$(% cat bringing in some fleas, it's always the cat's fault), and it contains cedar oil, tea tree oil, and citronella, but highly diluted, I don't remember what with. It smells great, but very mild smelling, and seems to help calm down the itching. Even so, I have great respect for any essential oils, they can be very powerful!
Thanks! I just did a little more reading and read exactly what you said above. I now feel ok with putting the conditioning spray diectly on his tiny dry patches. I am also sure the shampoo is diluted enough. I will tell you, the tea tree oil shampoo made him so soft!





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I posted this one a while ago, not sure if you've seen it? http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com...-safe-shampoo/

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