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A couple of concerns/questions...

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Every so often since we've gotten Giotto he has thrown up. It's nothing major. He's never sick before or after it and it's usually just foamy liquid. I did ask my vet about it months ago and she seemed to think it was just from something he ate and just to watch if it continued or happened more than once in 24 hours. That hasn't happened. This just comes and goes. It happened again today, just a yellow liquid and foam and he seemed fine before and after, but it just has me wondering if this is something to be concerned about or not. He's been eating the same food (Merrick) since we got him 8 months ago and the same treats (Iam's biscuits, Beefeaters Chicken Fillets, Zuke's Chicken Naturals). Could it be something he is eating or just an upset stomach or something more?

I was going to call the vet about this but figured I would ask here in case anyone else has had the same experience and might know what this could be.


Second question, Giotto is still a mighty nipper. It is always when he is excited and usually when he first sees us in the morning or when we come home and it doesn't last long, but it's annoying and even painful. We want him to stop doing this and he has gotten much better since he was younger, but it is a habit that is still with him. We've tried to get him to sit (which sometimes works) and we've tried ignoring him which usually makes him more nippy. When it is really bad we put him in another room for five minutes and then let him out and he is usually much more calm and relaxed when he comes out. Once he has this hyper and nippy moment, he's over it and fine the rest of the time. He only does this when he hasn't seen you for a while and he is excited. I think that is why we have let it slide so much but now we really need to get a handle on it and train him to act more appropriately.

Any hints or tips on how to get better control over this would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!
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The yellow foamy liquid is usually bile. If the throwing up is only occasional and your vet has ruled out any other health issues, from my experience, if the puppy is hungry, he will throw up bile. Benji used to do that as a puppy. It usually happened in the morning. I started to feed him a small treat at night and it helped. How old is Giotto? You might want to increase his food portion as he is growing up.

As to the nipping, my breeder told me to say "ouch" loudly and then "No nipping or biting" command. Also, give him an appropriate chew toy. It worked!

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Here is a link that discussed biting/nipping. It might help.

http://havaneseforum.com/showthread....ghlight=Biting

On the throwing up. I noticed that a certain cookie will make Sissy
throw up.


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Thank you for your responses.

Yes, this usually occurs in the morning. I didn't think that it might be because of hunger. Giotto doesn't eat much at all in the mornings. I always offer him his food but most times he sniffs it and walks away. Sometimes he comes back and eats, but usually he won't eat again until late afternoon or his night feeding. He probably is hungry in the morning but if so I don't know why he won't eat. Giotto is 10 months old now. He always eats at night so maybe I will just make sure to give him something before bed to stay in his stomach longer through the night.

Thank you for the tips about his nipping. I have been told this will eventually stop, and it has lessened, but he still does it. We've done the "ouch" thing and he doesn't seem phased by that at all. We will keep trying though as we need to break this habit. I will check the website too and see what tips they recommend.
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I'm curious to read responses here, too, because Tucker does the same thing, throwing up bile at random, widely spread times. It is getting less now, I'm assuming because he's getting older, (20 months.) He has food out all the time because he doesn't like to eat much at a time, just nibbles throughout the day, so, I don't think being hungry explains it with him. He will also occasionally decide not to eat for a day, then invariably, the next day he'll have loose stools and I'll have to give him a back-bath. I can't figure it out; but, he is doing this less as he gets older, so maybe yours will, too.

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Roxie was doing the same throwing up bile in the morning thing a while back. Usually it was if her breakfast was late or she hadn't eaten much supper the night before. She also often skips her breakfast. I started giving her a couple of small treats... small as in the size of a piece of kibble... before her breakfast.... and it seems to wake her appetite up and she eats her breakfast then (at least a little something) and hasn't thrown up bile since I started this.

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One of my guys did the bile throw up regularly when they were younger. It definately was a hunger thing. The vet suggested that I give her a snack before bed, and it stopped. Giotto may be hungry in the morning, but maybe he doesnt like what is offered to him. I also found that she outgrew it!!

"OUCH" was our response to nips, then said NO TEETH!!! And pull away and ignore the pup. He will learn that not only does he make you angry but he loses your attention when he does that. The best we ever did was to teach Logan to greet us with a toy in his mouth. Now at almost 2 years old, he will not greet you if he does not have a toy in his mouth. He will run to the family room, grab a toy, and then greet you. It is really cute, certainly not intended to make him continue, but he does it on his own now. Good luck.

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Giotto has thrown up that bile foamy gunk about 5 or 6 times today. He's never done that before. Usually it's once and that's it. He's not eating today either and I have offered him not only his food, but roast beef, cheese, chicken, even his treats and he wants none of it. He is drinking though. He's also lethargic. I did call the vet who said I could bring him in but suggested waiting until tomorrow to see if he was better. She said he might just have a bug and will be back to normal by tomorrow. If not, and he still isn't eating, then I should bring him in which I will. Hopefully he will be back to his old self tomorrow and eating and running around.
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I have this problem with Monte some mornings also and he is almost 2. I always give him a cookie before bed but some morning's he still wakes up belly growling and he wont eat. Thankfully he doesnt throw up like he use to, it is very rare now. I have to really watch him at night to see how much energy he is burning like tonight he is running around like a mad man so he will get 2 cookies before bed and that usually works. As long as Giotto is drinking dont worry too much tonight, they can go a few days without food. I would offer some chicken or hamburg with rice in the morning, something gentle on his belly.

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Awww poor Giotto!! It sounds like a little stomach bug to me, and he is gagging up bile cause he has not eaten anything. If he is not better by tomorrow, I would def. bring him to the vet just to be sure!! 5-6x a day is a lot! Mine might have done it 1 -2x a day but never 5-6.

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