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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 10-13-2008, 02:46 PM Thread Starter
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I was just visiting my Mother in Illinois. When we went into the mall I was shocked to see a pet shop selling puppies. I haven't seen dogs for sale in stores like this for years. If any stores have live kittens/puppies they are rescues from the animal shelter around here.

The store was called "Fur Babies" and guess what the marketing stagedy was? You probably guessed-----baby cribs! All the puppies were in white baby cribs! I just couldn't believe it. They had a puggles, chih, boxers,a maltese,a long haired dachshund, yorkies and a shih-tzu. Honestly----I walked in,looked at each and every puppy,scanned the place and left. It just made me mad. There was a sign out front saying 1000.00 credit,no credit checks,and no one was there working over the age of maybe 20. They all looked like teenage girls. I just couldn't believe it. About 6 mo. ago I talked my Mom out of a cocker spaniel from the pet shop. I told her about puppy mills etc. After sitting in the mall a while,I saw a lady and her son come in. The son wanted the Mom to come and look-"just look Mom"--the Mom said no-I told her they are puppy mill dogs....she circled around,but retrieved her son and never went in that I saw. I hope I saved her from the heart ache of a pet shop puppy from a puppy mill. What I wanted to know from you guys...is do you think people are just kinda dumb or what? Why would a person buy a puppy from a pet shop for 1000.00-3500.00 when if you were going to risk a pup----wouldn't you just buy from the local newspaper? A back yard breeder is at least a step up from a puppy mill isn't it? Why would you buy a shih-tzu from a pet store for a huge inflated price when you could buy one from the newspaper for around 250.-350. and not be at any more risk?

I found it interesting that Oprah is out of Chicago---and yet 100 miles from there a pet store like this exists.

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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 10-13-2008, 02:52 PM
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Our yard service provider, and neighbor, was so interested in Scooter and then proceeded to tell us about their little dog, she's a Maltese and she's beautiful. He got her from a pet store and was thrilled because she was "discounted". I think he said she was about 14 weeks old when they bought her and the store reduced the price because most people want younger puppies. He tried to get me to check out the store before we got Scooter but I just didn't feel right buying from a store and at the time I wasn't even aware of the puppy mills. He said he'd go back to the same store if they ever get another puppy but if he ever mentions it to me again I'll tell him to find out where they get their dogs first!

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I am curious to know if your neighbor looked in the newspaper for the breed he was looking for and if not why? What his thoughts were at why a pet shop would be better then an ad in the paper?

It just seems like you would be at least less at "risk" with the byb then the puppy mill...not to mention the inflated prices the pet shop has.

I realize it could be a touchy subject,but if you do talk with him and he's open about it---I'd just love to know.

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Julie, I have one of these puppy mill stores in walking distance of my house. It is called Shake a Paw. Every time I pass by I want to break the glass and let all the puppies out. My cousin bought multiple dogs from them (7) and there was something wrong with every one of them.


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Julie-He was told about it by one of his friends. He raved about how great the owners of the store were but I didn't even consider going there. If I get a chance to discuss it with him I will.

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Is it illegal in some states to sell puppies/kittens? I wonder why here(in any pet shops I've been in) they only have animals from an animal shelter.

It is just unbelievable....I do have to say though---it is a great marketing scheme.Most women are drawn to the name "Fur Babies" and then to see all those baby cribs....it was amazing.

Michele--do they market them like this as well? I was expecting cages,not baby cribs!

Thank goodness there wasn't a havanese there---but believe it or not---there was a chinese crested. I always considered them a rarer breed,but I guess I'll have to re-think that now that I see them in pet stores in baby cribs!

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We have a pet store full of puppies in our local Boise mall. That store has been selling puppy mill puppies for as long as I've lived here, over 15 years. Nobody under 20 works there either. Shoppers walk by and squeal in delight at the beautiful helpless pups in the window. Surely these shoppers must have heard of puppy mills by now! Do they just block it out? It breaks my heart.
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I have to admit that the past two years, as a member here, have been the most eye opening times. Prior to my friend getting a Havanese, I never heard of them. I only wanted one because of the friendly loving nature of the dog. I was just lucky enough (and I mean REALLY LUCKY) to have found a reasonable breeder who had wonderful dogs. Had I not been steered in her direction, I might have gone to a pet store and bought a Havanese! Years ago I would have thought that pet stores were the "good guys" vs the people who wanted to sell you pups at their house. Call it naive, but that was how I was "educated". It is all in the education. Thankfully Oprah is letting people know who the "good guys" are. Thankfully, the puppy mill issues are getting to the public - Thankfully some of the pet stores are "getting the message", but it will be a long road, and we just have to keep plugging to get the word out to the public that pet stores buy from Mills, and will use ANY means (cribs) to make a sale!!!!

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I had not seen pet stores selling puppies until I got here to Long Island. It makes me really sad. Yesterday we went to our local LI fair and saw 2 Havanese. One was 13 months and the other just 8 weeks. Both were bought from a pet shop in Queens. The dogs were very cute and they attracted quite a few people like me who were interested to know where the owners got them. The breed is getting so popular that we are going to see more puppy mills selling them. It imakes me really sad and angry that the puppy mills aren't illegal all over the country.

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Julie, the shop in my neighborhood just has cages, except for the teacup size pups. They are kept in plexiglass boxes. I have been to stores that use the cribs.


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