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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 01-03-2009, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
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Hi Everyone,

I just joined today and I happened to find your forum while researching seizures in Havanese.

My little Havanese Tucker came from a breeder in Georgia. The website is www.noahslittleark.com, the breeder delivered him to me from GA.
When we first got him almost immediately it seemed like he was having seizures his legs would cramp up and he was vomiting. Anyways, we went to the vet, ER etc etc.
They wanted to do a liver test on him, but after a few days from his last episode and his overnight in the doggie ER he seemed much better. (This was during the Thanksgiving week).
He hasnt had any episode until yesterday when I gave him a bath.
Tucker is a real shyly, so he seemed extremely stressed out. In the tub, he started the falling over and he lifts his legs up like he has cramps in them.

I gave him some Nutracal- and he hasn't had an episode since. So, I want to propose a question to all of you experienced Havanese owners.
Has your puppy or dog ever had an episode where it appear his trembling all over and his legs kind of cramp up? Do you think this a seizure?

The testing is extremely expensive the liver test is about $120.00. It's just soo weird he seems fine and then when he gets stressed these episodes happen. I would appreciate any help.
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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 01-03-2009, 03:27 PM
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OH Kellybean, I am soooo sorry to hear about your poor little baby. I'm sorry that I cannot offer any advice, but you are sure coming to the right place for some. There are so many wonderful, caring and experienced hav owners here. All I can offer right now is a BIG HUG AND my good thoughts and prayers for you and your little guy. All our best!

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Welcome to the forum

I wondered if you had contacted the breeder? I'd definitely let them know what is going on.

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I'm sorry to read about Tucker's strange episodes. I'm not familiar with those symptoms at all, but wanted to welcome you to the forum and hope that you get your answers.

This may come across as insensitive, but have you thought about returning him to the breeder if this continues?
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Kimberly, I had the same thought. My breeder has an unconditional guarantee. A dog she breeded was hit by a car and when contacted by the owners she offered them another puppy.

Kellybean...I'd contact the breeder immediately before doing anymore testing. Poor Tucker, I hope he's ok and feeling well.

Welcome to the forum. I'm in GA too. Where are you?

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I just looked at your breeder's site...they offer a money back guarantee or will pay the cost of corrective surgery on one of their puppies. I'd make them the next contact as I would guess you've already grown to love Tucker.

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Thank you everyone! Tucker and I appreciate your well wishes.
We did call the breeder. He says that he has never had anything of the sort happen.
Anyways, he did tell me that he would pay for any testing surgery up the price of the dog, however, a vet has to certify that it's a genetic disorder. Which I understand.

I'm actually in Tampa Florida, not GA. There are few breeders in Florida and the ones I found didn't have a litter. We thought about giving him back and the breeder was cool with that, but we decided against it. Well I appreciate all of your replies.

I'm glad to have found this forum !!!
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I wish you all the luck in the world, and I pray for the health of your baby. I would never presume to tell you what to do, but if this dog does have liver shunt disease, his life will depend on very expensive surgeries. The sooner it's caught the better the out come.
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Where are you located in Tampa? I've lived there and still have family in Brandon and Valrico.

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I too am sorry to hear of this happening to your little guy.

It sounds to me that he may suffer from what we would call a sugar shock. When I raised Pomeranians years ago we would have some of our puppies go into sugar shocks and the would have seizure like symptoms. We thought that it was something like diabetes, but after being checked it was not, though back then we did not do a lot with health testing for animals so we as well as the vets were not sure of what was causing these problems. We always kept the Nutra-cal or honey around at all times, and when they go into the seizures we just put a little on their tongue and and we would hold and comfort them until it passed usually within a couple minutes of getting their sugar they would then be out of the seizure and then would act really whipped for about an hour or so. Is this how your guy would act?
The good news is 9 times out of 10 they would out grow this condition.
I am not saying this is what he has going on, just saying that this is what we would see in our Poms when were breeding them.
I hope you are able to figure out what is going on with him.

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