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Bad clash with pitbull pup!

Oh my gosh i just had a heart attack!! I was in the park with milo tday, i lost hold of his leash and he ran up to a put bull pup, who the owner said was 14 weeks old. They were playing at first but then before i knew it the pitbull was being really rough with milo and pushing him down and trampling on him, milo was running away and crying and the other pup was chasing him, it took what felt like forever untill me and the other owner could catch them. Milo had a horrible time!

He is such a loving pup and he runs up to everyone and every dog he sees wanting to say hi! Im worried this experience is going to change him and Im worried he will lose his trust in me because i couldnt help him, Is that possible or am i totally over reacting?




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Good thing the Pit was only a puppy! Ginger is the same way with wanting to greet and play with anyone, dog or human. We almost had a similar experience yesterday, but luckily Ginger never got loose. Did Milo receive any physical damage? Actually it not a bad learning experience, the world is not always a safe place


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yes it's possible he could exhibit some fear down the road. Try to give him some reassurance from some known pups or adults that you know are more gentle. Don't force any interactions. Have you thought of puppy classes.? Do keep a close eye on his behavior when other dogs are present. If there's any sort of fear , consider talking with a trainer. You'll know.

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Yea im so glad it was a puppy, even as a pup you could see his pure projection of dominance and it was scary! The putbill was trampling on him and milo cried a little bit, but there doesnt seem to be any physical harm done thankfully. I feel so bad for him because he just wants to play with other dogs but hes either too hyper for them and now this has just happened. I just really hope that he wont become scared around other dogs but my main fear is that he will feel like i cant protect him!

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yes it's possible he could exhibit some fear down the road. Try to give him some reassurance from some known pups or adults that you know are more gentle. Don't force any interactions. Have you thought of puppy classes.?
Yea i have been looking into puppy classes i really want to start one i think it will be fantastic for us but the problem is that i live in holland and it seems that the classes are in Dutch, which i understand but not enough to be 100% sure that i get all the important info. Frustrating situation!

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Yea i have been looking into puppy classes i really want to start one i think it will be fantastic for us but the problem is that i live in holland and it seems that the classes are in Dutch, which i understand but not enough to be 100% sure that i get all the important info. Frustrating situation!
yeah it would still be beneficial , it's what the pups get out of it that counts most.

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yeah it would still be beneficial , it's what the pups get out of it that counts most.
I agree with Dave completely. While you may mis some information, your pup will still get that so-critical early socialization!

Also, on-leash meetings, especially with dogs tahta are an unknown quantity are rarely a good idea. Dogs on leash are often more reactive, because they think their owner might pull them back. The dogs can also get scarily tangled with each other, which can lead to panic and aggression even between two dogs who might NEVER otherwise think of fighting.


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There's a website called MeetUp where people with shared interests arrange group events. As an example there are 10 different groups in seven cities and two countries where Havanese owners meet monthly to let their dogs play together.

As a rare breed there are not an abundance of Havanese Meetups - but there are many toy breed meetups where people with small dogs meet so their dogs can avoid just the kind of experience you had. As an example the Havanese group in my community has 76 members but the toy breeds (which invites Havanese) play time group has 330+.

So if there's not one nearby in Amersterdam, you can consider starting one to insure that Milo's romps are with those his own size.
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There's a website called MeetUp where people with shared interests arrange group events. As an example there are 10 different groups in seven cities and two countries where Havanese owners meet monthly to let their dogs play together.

As a rare breed there are not an abundance of Havanese Meetups - but there are many toy breed meetups where people with small dogs meet so their dogs can avoid just the kind of experience you had. As an example the Havanese group in my community has 76 members but the toy breeds (which invites Havanese) play time group has 330+.

So if there's not one nearby in Amersterdam, you can consider starting one to insure that Milo's romps are with those his own size.
One word of warning about the mixed breed small dog meet-ups. The one i went to (and I've been told that wasn't unusual) was largely Chihuahuas and Yorkies. Most wer not potty trained, so they were peeing and pooping all over the place, even though the event was held in an indoor facility. This clearly wasn't a surprise to any of the owners, they all brought their own paper towels and bottles of Nature's Miracle. The dogs also didn't have the same play style as most Havanese... There was lots of jumping on top of each other and tussling. Kodi is a well socialized dog and plays happily with gentle, friendly dogs of all sizes. He was horrified!!! Every time I put him down, all he wanted to do was get back in my lap.

I stayed for a while, letting him sit in my lap and take things in, but he never wanted to get off my lap, (in general, he is NOT a lap dog!!!) and after about an hour, we left. I have to say, I wasn't sorry to go either. I didn't want him to get any ideas about peeing and pooping anywhere he wanted.


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Yikes Karen - I hadn't considered that aspect of a toy breed meetup. The whole thing sounds pretty foul. The 'excrete where you will' ethos is not one I want Rory to have modeled for her in this lifetime. Thanks for the heads-up. Carli, consider my recommendation revised to Havanese only.
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