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Calling all chubby hav's

I wanted to share what I learned today. Ever since I put my boys on high protein diet, they have gain so much weight. They are like little umpa lumpa's. I've been feeding Primal raw and leaving Evo to free feed. I've always free fed them with no issues, until I went high protein. They started blowing up over the past year. The lady at the Pet store told protein is hard to burn. Even though my guys get a 30-60 min off leash walk/run a day, they were gaining weight!

Today, I decided to switch to Innova low calorie dry food. I thought they would never eat it, because they hardly ever nip on their dry, unless they are famished. I've also tried every dry food out there, for them to turn their noses up. I bought HALO DINNER PARTY season mix( chicken flavor) and sprinkled it on the Innova dry food. The pups, even Bella, went to town on the dry! This HALO stuff is awesome. I also took cut yellow and orange sweet peppers, put in a baggy, sprinkled Halo on them, and shook. The pups loved this treat!

My guys will be on this low calorie diet until I can easily feel their ribs!





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Linda,
Not sure about that?? Why would protien from raw meat be hard to burn/process? As far as I know, raw meat gets digested rather quickly compared to kibbles?? The raw food might be higher in calories though, something to look into...

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When Pablo was on EVO small bites he gained a ton of muscle weight esp. on his thighs. He turned into a body builder, LOL. We fed him the lowest amount for his size and he gets to run outside a lot, but still. I changed to Fromm's and he's slowly loosing those couple of pounds.

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Not sure about that?? Why would protien from raw meat be hard to burn/process? As far as I know, raw meat gets digested rather quickly compared to kibbles?? The raw food might be higher in calories though, something to look into...

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Ryan,
That's what I thought too. Like Maryam said, my guys have a lot of muscle, but they are far from lean! They used to be lean when they were on regular kibble and canned food. I try to avoid canned food now. The lady said the high protein dry and raw have a ton of calories. I am very curious to see their weight after they're on this low cal diet. I'll keep you posted, even though Beamer could use some meat on his bones






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It is interesting to hear you say that Linda cause in my conformation class we were just talking about how a lot of conformation dogs are heavier in the ring. And a lot of raw fed dogs just don't carry the weight like the kibble fed dogs. Dash and Belle are both very lean and one is kibble fed ( Dash-evo) and raw (Belle-nv). I just dont think no matter what I fed Dash he would get heavy as he is a little energizer. He also is very picky about his food. I had a lot of trouble getting weight on him when I was trying. He just suddenly grew up some and is at a good weight for his athletic body now. Belle has always been really thin but when Dash was on half puppy kibble and she decided to eat it she put on weight. I could tell by feeling her but my husband finally agreed when she didn't fit into her harness. Dora is on kibble and she is just more stocky than Dash and she can be a bit of a lazy butt. She could probably lose a half pound. But I don't think it is from the evo, I think it just her be a bit more lazy.

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It is interesting to hear you say that Linda cause in my conformation class we were just talking about how a lot of conformation dogs are heavier in the ring. And a lot of raw fed dogs just don't carry the weight like the kibble fed dogs. Dash and Belle are both very lean and one is kibble fed ( Dash-evo) and raw (Belle-nv). I just dont think no matter what I fed Dash he would get heavy as he is a little energizer. He also is very picky about his food. I had a lot of trouble getting weight on him when I was trying. He just suddenly grew up some and is at a good weight for his athletic body now. Belle has always been really thin but when Dash was on half puppy kibble and she decided to eat it she put on weight. I could tell by feeling her but my husband finally agreed when she didn't fit into her harness. Dora is on kibble and she is just more stocky than Dash and she can be a bit of a lazy butt. She could probably lose a half pound. But I don't think it is from the evo, I think it just her be a bit more lazy.
I guess I'll have to report back in a month or so. Maybe the raw is good for the very active Hav's. Besides their walks, my guys are pretty much lumps





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I just got back from a visit to a good Pet Store and talking to the gal there. She said that the high protein diets (Evo, Natures Variety raw, and grain free,) are especially good for the dogs that are high energy/high working dogs.

I'm still trying to figure out something that will work for Tucker...Natural Balance Duck and Potato is what the vet put Tucker on 4 weeks ago. But, suddenly he's starting to show interest in his BM...I'm not going there!!! So, I'm going to try Nature's Variety kibble with grain....

Man, this gets complicated!!!

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I just got back from a visit to a good Pet Store and talking to the gal there. She said that the high protein diets (Evo, Natures Variety raw, and grain free,) are especially good for the dogs that are high energy/high working dogs.

I'm still trying to figure out something that will work for Tucker...Natural Balance Duck and Potato is what the vet put Tucker on 4 weeks ago. But, suddenly he's starting to show interest in his BM...I'm not going there!!! So, I'm going to try Nature's Variety kibble with grain....

Man, this gets complicated!!!
Yes, that's what I heard. The high protein diets are great for very active dogs. My guys don't fall under that catagory.





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Thanks for posting this, Linda! I would think that it would be like us people going on Atkins....I guess not!

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I'm still trying to figure out something that will work for Tucker...Natural Balance Duck and Potato is what the vet put Tucker on 4 weeks ago. But, suddenly he's starting to show interest in his BM...I'm not going there!!!
Hi Sheri,
Whoa! That's a problem! I had Scout on NB Duck and Potato when he was a puppy but his coat got noticeable dry. I think it was lower in fat then some of the other kibbles. I add salmon oil now anyway - especially in the winter!

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