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I saw my first shavanese in person!

I just saw my first short haired hav in person at the pet store. What a cutie! Now I really know WHAT Todd looks like Eva. This little 7 month girl even had the same coloring as Todd. I am embarrassed to say I had to ask what kind of dog it was... and of course once I knew I held her and let her lick me... and now my eyes are itchy.. so they are more allergenic than the long hairs. But all this made me wonder where this comes from in their history? they really do look like a different breed. Does anyone know why this happens or what gene pool they revert back to? Just curious. But WOW! if I weren't allergic... IWASHHP!




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Missy I found this on one of the web sites.

Examples of Short Coat Havanese (Shavanese)
Havanese with a recessive coat. The short hair Havanese, a Registered purebred dog.
Some Havanese carry a short haired recessive gene. If two Adults with this recessive gene have a litter of puppies, it is possible that some of the puppies will be born with smooth coats. A Havanese with a short coat cannot be shown and is a disqualification in the show arena, meaning it would not be allowed to participate in a dog show, however it is not a medical factor and in no way affects the dog itself. A short coated Havanese looks very different when full grown than a long coated Havanese. Some have nicknamed the Havanese born with short coats Shavanese. Around 1980, several German breeders started finding odd-coated puppies in litters with regular Havanese. As these pups matured they did not grow full coats like their other littermates. They had feathering on the skirts, tail, legs, chest, and ears - the rest of the body hair was close lying. They oddly enough grew up to have smooth coats. Breeders got together and found that this was happening in other litters of Havanese and was not a chance genetic mutation in one single litter, but something carried in a lot of Havanese as a recessive gene. These dogs were called Smooth-Coated Havanese, but have picked up the name Shavanese somewhere along the line. The short coated Havanese are not showable or breedable, however they are perfectly healthy.
A Neutered Havanese, with short hair recessive gene. These dogs shed and are not hyper-allergenic.

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Does anyone know why this happens or what gene pool they revert back to? Just curious.
Missy-How fun! But was it being sold at the petstore? I would be curious to know the answer to that too. I have never heard of a smooth coated maltese or bichon puppy being born so it is interesting to see where they come from.

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With German Shepherds you can get long coats...instead of the standard shorter stock coat most people are used to.
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Karla- I recently saw a long haired GSD come in for testing for search and rescue. Someone there asked if it was a mix, the dog looked very different all together but he said she was imported from Europe.

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No not being sold Amanda... (I try not to support pet stores that sell animals).....just shopping with her owners. She was really cute.




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Amanda, we had 4 litters of GSD's and in every one we had at least 1 or 2 long coats. I think they are so pretty...
Let's see, here are two puppies from our dogs...one is a long coat (Johann), and the last picture is a standard stock coat (Jericho).
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Missy- sorry my mind just went to oh my they are exploiting the rare short hairs now!

Karla- They are striking but then again I tend to be drawn to long coated breeds. The one I saw I would say was 75% black with a little tan so hence we all just assumed she was a mixed breed.

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And isn't it interesting that apparently whatever recessive gene gives it the short coat also cancels the non-shedding, not-so-allergenic aspect of the Havanese breed? So, it would imply that somehow they are linked in that gene...you'd think it would just be a different gene altogether, wouldn't you?

Hmmm...this could twist my mind to think on, so I'm just going to go back to the quiz I'm studying for...

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Karla,
I love the look of the longer haired GSDs.

But, obviously, I guess, I LOVE long hair! Ha!

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