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Boy vs Girl?

I'm going to be adopting a Havanese and am still undecided between and girl or boy. Is there much difference? Also, I do have a male (neutered) german shepherd. He is fine with both sexes but has been known to be grumbly with males who challenge him. He is alpha dog. I am not sure if this would be an issue with a small male dog? It's always the larger ones. He doesn't attack or anything, just gets grumbly and asserts his dominance. Any thoughts? Should I stick to a girl?
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I think it has more to do with finding individuals with compatible temperaments. Leo lives with Porter, a 70 lb. neutered male and Becca, a 50 lb. spayed female; both mutts. All three get along great but both boys play rougher with Becca than with each other. Porter has established himself as head dog and both Becca and Leo seem comfortable with the arrangement. We rarely have any squabbles and if we do it's typically Leo acting bratty to Becca. He has finally gotten old enough that she is beginning to correct his rudeness with more emphasis than she did when he was a baby. I tell Leo he asked for it and he needs to remember his manners!


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Thanks. I find it really hard to tell temperament when they are all tumbling little puppies! I also wanted to mention I have a 2.5 year old daughter, and have read females can tend to be a bit nippier than boys. Any truth to this?
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Again I think it will depend more on the individual puppy rather than males/females generally. Keep in mind that when you bring your puppy home you will likely have a period of mouthy behavior. This is very typical BUT those sharp puppy teeth hurt! Try to work with a breeder that socializes extensively and wait to bring your puppy home until he/she is 10-12 weeks. This will allow more time for mama dog and siblings to help puppy understand that biting too hard ends play. You will want to continue that lesson from the minute you bring your puppy home. Set up an expen and when puppy bites down too hard on human skin stop interacting immediately and gently place puppy in the expen for a couple of minutes. Do not speak to or look at puppy. Then take puppy out of expen to play. When puppy bites down too hard repeat. If you are VERY consistent with this, puppy will learn in a few days that teeth in human skin = no play! This will apply to male or female puppies. I chose a male because after having raised 17 pups (not Havanese) over my lifetime I find that I prefer male dogs. They tend to be less finicky about stuff - wet grass, raindrops on their head, other dogs/people looking at them sideways - just stuff! You will find others that prefer females. Some do because they are concerned about "marking" behavior. Inappropriate "marking" is simply poor housetraining nothing more. Boy dogs can learn appropriate house manners just as girl dogs can. There are many threads about housetraining on the forum so read through those. My Leo is very loving, easy going, loves rough and tumble play with his doggie sibs, is so very gentle with my infant granddaughter, quiet most of the time and the star of my office where he often spends his days! Just love my little boy dog!


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I think I would be very wary of bringing a male Havanese puppy into the house with a dog as big as a GSD who likes to assert his dominance or get "grumbly" with other males. A single snap that is just meant to be a warning by the larger dog could easliy kill a 3 or 4 lb puppy.


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I will get the puppy at 10 weeks old, they are from an excellent breeder who socializes them. I meet them this week though and can point out one I take a fancy to. The breeder will make the final decision though based on personality of the pup and needs of the family. I usually prefer male animals, finding them to be more gentle, just having trouble deciding this time around. Growing up we had a few male dogs that HATED other male dogs but loved the ladies. It is so hard to judge when they havent hit "puberty" yet. My female dog always hated other females. I was just wondering if the fact they are going to be 70lbs different in weight means that some of the competition will be taken out of the factor. Tough decision, and one Ill be stuck with for many years! Thanks for your input.
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I think I would be very wary of bringing a male Havanese puppy into the house with a dog as big as a GSD who likes to assert his dominance or get "grumbly" with other males. A single snap that is just meant to be a warning by the larger dog could easliy kill a 3 or 4 lb puppy.
I agree. Max would not snap at a puppy but I wonder when the male matures if there might be some issues. Even if nobody gets hurt, what if they just dont get along as well? That would not be fun for any of us.
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I agree. Max would not snap at a puppy but I wonder when the male matures if there might be some issues. Even if nobody gets hurt, what if they just dont get along as well? That would not be fun for any of us.
The teouble is, it doesn't even need to be a snap. If a 70 lb dog just slaps down hard on a tiny puppy he could break its back. And i am NOT saying the larger dog would mean to hurt the puppy. Big dogs often don't recognise the size difference between them and their tiny cousins.


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Having lived with Leo (11lbs), Porter (70 lbs) and Becca (50lbs) for the past year, I can say that the size difference is something you will need to be aware of regardless of gender. Leo plays with his bigger doggie sibs quite vigorously but he is NEVER alone with them. The size difference means that your level of supervision will need to be MUCH greater than if you had 2 Havanese. We keep their play controlled at all times. We are empty nesters and don't have the distraction of a young child most of the time. You will need to consider how you manage the puppy, your big dog and your young child. We use an expen set up in the den where we spend most of our time. Leo still gets placed their if our attention needs to be focused on something because we don't want an accident to happen between him and the other larger dogs. Just think through the precautions you will need to put in place because of the size difference in your dogs.


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Thanks for the input. I dont expect to leave the dogs alone together. Luckily our house is already filled with a sea of baby/pet gates so that won't be difficult! Max sleeps on his bed downstairs and from what Ive read, the hav will be sleeping on my bed upstairs. Max is not even allowed upstairs (I developed a hair-in-the-bed phobia over the years). Max is getting pretty old though, I mean is still very active outdoors still but when indoors just lazes around the fire. He is good with my cats and my sisters toy poodle, there has never been an issue. Chances are he would be fine with a male or female too, I just am overly cautious. Also, a friend of mine who is a dog person mentioned that it may end up being the newcomer male who is not fine with Max! Especially because I dont want to spay/neuter until finished growing, with all that testosterone who knows! Anyway, I think I have decided on a girl. Hopefully the breeder agrees and will be fine with it. This is my first time using a breeder, Ive always gone rescue in the past. I used to foster small dogs too. Just really wanted a well-bred animal this time, Im tired of dealing with health issues of puppy mill dogs
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