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The Alpha Fallacy

Here is yet another good article that tries to correct our misinterpretation of the "alpha" concept. We have to realize that our dogs are not trying to challenge us for rank . They simply want good things. Check out the link at Nichole's article ,it will take you to David Mech's in which he corrects his earlier studies. and those of others. Old habits die hard.
http://dogstardaily.com/blogs/man-who-cried-alpha

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I haven't clicked on the article yet (heading out to a dog show in a few minutes), but I've been around dogs all my life and have had a hard time with the whole alpha theory. I think a lot of people confuse the eagerness and demanding nature of some dogs that they are trying to be the boss/alpha. In reality, I believe, it is more of an excitement and desire to please themselves.
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I haven't clicked on the article yet (heading out to a dog show in a few minutes), but I've been around dogs all my life and have had a hard time with the whole alpha theory. I think a lot of people confuse the eagerness and demanding nature of some dogs that they are trying to be the boss/alpha. In reality, I believe, it is more of an excitement and desire to please themselves.
You're right on with that analysis.

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I'm so happy to read all of this now as even as a new dog owner I didn't quite agree with the alpha dog mentality. I think of our puppy as a two year old...never turn your back!

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I have to say, thank goodness for this forum that I found it before I got Mochi.

When I was at the breeder's, she said, if you pick Mochi up and she growls at you, just flip her on her back and growl back at her. She proceeded to pick Mochi up but she didn't make up a peep - I was so happy. She then picked up another puppy to demonstrate and he growled so she flipped him over a bit roughly and GRRRRRRED in his face. He was only 8 weeks old!!! Poor puppy

Anyway, I am very glad I learned about the proper and positive ways to handle Mochi instead of taking advice from my breeder.

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David Mech's research is covered in this book Animals Make Us Human: Creating the Best Life for Animals (Hardcover)
by Temple Grandin (Author), Catherine Johnson (Author)

Chapter 2 A Dog's Life, is great reading on this subject. I have had dogs all my life and once I started reading this I could not stop...it was so good.
Explains dogs need parents, not pack leaders and they are like a family, not a pack.

For dog lovers it is really good reading
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David Mech's research is covered in this book Animals Make Us Human: Creating the Best Life for Animals (Hardcover)
by Temple Grandin (Author), Catherine Johnson (Author)

Chapter 2 A Dog's Life, is great reading on this subject. I have had dogs all my life and once I started reading this I could not stop...it was so good.
Explains dogs need parents, not pack leaders and they are like a family, not a pack.

For dog lovers it is really good reading
thanks Lynn for the info. I have always wanted to pick up one of his books. I have read numerous articles of his and he has basically come forward years later admitting that his and others early research was flawed. and misleading. Better late than never.

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