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Kibble, canned,home, raw ???

I have just received my consultation with Sabine at The Dog Food Project (Better Dog Care/ Nutrition) http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=main This was a very enlightening and inspiring venture. I know we all try to provide the best nutrition we can for our Havanese . As far as food is concerned , I think just like every human is an individual ,every dog is an individual too. We are bombarded with a lot of bad information and too often, not enough good information. We all have our own budgets ,time restraints ,access to good food, etc. etc. when it comes to purchasing dog food. Even when we study the subject we tend to get conflicting advice and opinions on what is best for our dogs. That is why I turned to a professional like Sabine. What I have learned is that nutrition is a complicated field ,and I can only say that for me , I thought I was giving good quality food to my Molly. What I have since learned ,is that I could be doing better.
Because Sabine does recognize the individuality of dogs ,she does not publish a "top ten" or any sort of ratings chart for dog foods. When she does an evaluation she asks you to submit a detailed questionnaire on what you are currently feeding , how , when etc. She asks you about any issues or questions you may have and does not try to get you to change anything you do not want to change. She simply provides options based on your situation.

Anyway,to say that I was enlightened and educated ,would be an understatement. Her feedback was detailed thorough and suited to my situation and Molly's needs. It was truly one of the best things I have ever done for not only Molly ,but myself .Because now I feel more confident in the changes I am about to make. No, I am not receiving compensation from Sabine, LOL ,I just like to pass on this information and option to fellow dog lovers alike. Can't say enough about this wonderful experience. P.S. This only cost me $ 22 U.S. and a little reading and research time. Gosh , I have spent that much on one dog toy. And this will last a lifetime. And I am sure a longer one at that. Woofs and Wags Dave and Molly

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I've been reading some of the articles and now I'm more confused than ever! I stress way too much over what I'm feeding Scooter!

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Dave, a good friend of mine has used Sabine for her Aussie's and sounds just like you. Because I am currently feeding a commercial raw her consult would be $44 per dog. I am going to be scheduling a consult soon.




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Does she do it online?

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Dave, a good friend of mine has used Sabine for her Aussie's and sounds just like you. Because I am currently feeding a commercial raw her consult would be $44 per dog. I am going to be scheduling a consult soon.
yes this program involves a little more work on her behalf. Not only does she provide the initial consultation but is really good and prompt at answering questions. And yes Anne she does it all online.

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I may have to give that a try as I think it would put my mind at ease. I felt awful when I saw the article about treats. Guess what's in the treat bowl right now??? Pupperoni! And he loves them! They're in tiny bits but I won't be buying them anymore, I'm going to stick to the more natural jerky type treats. Or just try to use boiled chicken but it's like crack to him, he loses his mind.

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I may have to give that a try as I think it would put my mind at ease. I felt awful when I saw the article about treats. Guess what's in the treat bowl right now??? Pupperoni! And he loves them! They're in tiny bits but I won't be buying them anymore, I'm going to stick to the more natural jerky type treats. Or just try to use boiled chicken but it's like crack to him, he loses his mind.
yeah I would stick with real chicken or meat that you eat. Most of the treats are enjoyable for them ,just like the junk we humans eat. LOL

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Dave, My consultation for Cash is scheduled for the week of the 23rd. I really hope she can help with Cash constantly being hungry, and yet overweight as well as his passion for eating poop. What were her suggestions for Molly? and how does it differ from what you were doing before?




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Thanks for sharing the link to the dog food project. i agree each dog like each person is different. i think it is important to observe your dog's energy, habits, the stool etc...to help figure out what food are best.

My little pom cross for example was scratching like crazy, finally narrowed it down to the natural balance treat he was getting when we visited friends. stopped the NB scratching stopped. gave NB scratching returned. stopped NB for good :-) None of the other dogs in the family had the same problem.

I've also observed bella does not seem to do well on cooked chicken.

I found a human grade organic kibble the dogs like http://www.happytail.ca/ . I add raw human grade buffalo (as buffalo has no anti-biotics, no hormones and is low fat) and give them raw organic veggies for roughage and some trace minerals/vitamins.

The older dog seems to do well on this as it is not too fatty.

My dogs are busting at the seems when it is meal time (breakfast and dinner) in other words, they love it ;-)

They also get human grade cooked fish and or fish skin, raw chicken gizzards, raw liver, raw kidney , raw tripe, raw frozen whole smelts (bella's fav).

Raw bones are occassionally given to keep their teeth clean (i scoop out the fatty marrow). I also brush their teeth .

If we've been traveling and their diet and sleep has been compromised I add some probiotics and enzymes to their meals.

For training treats at home its always human grade meat or cheese and in the evening they enjoy strips of org. brocolli stems, each taking their treat to their own spot.

yep dog's diet is a full time job 'round here :-)
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Dave, My consultation for Cash is scheduled for the week of the 23rd. I really hope she can help with Cash constantly being hungry, and yet overweight as well as his passion for eating poop. What were her suggestions for Molly? and how does it differ from what you were doing before?
Hi Miissy. I know you will be well informed with Sabine. Chances are you are overfeeding . Her advice was detailed and very informative. She will give you options and set a guideline as far as calories. Loads of advice also. I was on Innova Evo with Molly but dedided to switch now to PetCurrean. canned food. Canned food is much better. She will give you the options and like I said every dog is different. You could have the "best" food and it still might not be suitable for your dog. Hope you gave her all the details. As far as Coprophagy is concerned. Sabine will know of some remedies. I know you will be enlightened with her and learn some very important lessons. Let me know when you get your consultation done and what you think. This nutrition thing is beyond the average person's understanding and knowledge. And the biggest problem is that there is a lot of bad information out there. You will also receive info on supplements etc. Very useful indeed.

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