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Are there concerns with an older hav?

I have never had a dog before so everything I have had to deal with is new to me. Having said that, Django is 10 1/2 years old and I consider him a senior now. We have noticed subtle changes, he can't RLH as fast or as long as he use to but he still manages to get a circle or two in a couple times a month. He walks around the house a bit slower and always looks for sun spots in the house to lay down in. He doesn't run up and down the stairs as quickly,sometimes there's a bit of hesitation at the bottom of the stair. He also has become a deep sleeper and sleeps more. He still however gets VERY excited every day when we go for his walks but then crashes on the couch when we return.

The other extreme is when he goes from the behavior listed above which is most of the time to a slightly agitated dog that whines constantly for something (I wish he could tell me what he wants) and can't seem to settle down, constantly on edge for a short period of time.

I know his Addisons and all the medication he has been on has probably aged him a bit more but are there behavioral changes that occur as your dog ages?
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No different than old people I know. Oh wait, I'm becoming one of those old people I know. It all sounds about right to me, except for maybe the whining part. I don't do that, yet


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LOL i was thinking the exact same thing!
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I have never had a dog before so everything I have had to deal with is new to me. Having said that, Django is 10 1/2 years old and I consider him a senior now. We have noticed subtle changes, he can't RLH as fast or as long as he use to but he still manages to get a circle or two in a couple times a month. He walks around the house a bit slower and always looks for sun spots in the house to lay down in. He doesn't run up and down the stairs as quickly,sometimes there's a bit of hesitation at the bottom of the stair. He also has become a deep sleeper and sleeps more. He still however gets VERY excited every day when we go for his walks but then crashes on the couch when we return.

The other extreme is when he goes from the behavior listed above which is most of the time to a slightly agitated dog that whines constantly for something (I wish he could tell me what he wants) and can't seem to settle down, constantly on edge for a short period of time.

I know his Addisons and all the medication he has been on has probably aged him a bit more but are there behavioral changes that occur as your dog ages?
It sounds as though everything you are describing is part of the aging process and, as you noted, with Django's medical history, it could be happening sooner for him. He has been through so much.

As far as the hesitation at the bottom of the stairs, that may be caused by a vision problem. As they get older, their vision can become impaired and they will have trouble navigating stairs. A couple of years ago, Tyler tried to come up the back stairs onto the deck, miscalculated and knocked out three of his front top teeth. After that my husband built him a ramp and it worked like a charm until he starting running and jumping from it which eventually lead to his torn ACL.

The sleeping more and sleeping deeply is also part of old age. Tyler sleeps most of the day now but also goes for walks, as well as working out 45 minutes a day on his treadmill. He does, though, still RLH, which scares me because I don't want him to wipe out and reinjure his leg. He doesn't do it every day, but too much for me. He also will whine at times and have trouble settling in. This mostly happens in the evening when we settle in for TV. I have read that can be a sign of canine cognitive disorder which could translate to dementia and/or Alzheimer's in humans.

It's hard to watch them get old but as long as they seem happy and are not in pain or suffering in any way, it's a blessing to have them with us for as long as possible. We had Bailey for 15 years and Tyler is about 6 or 7 weeks short of 17. He has been with us since he was 9 weeks old. I was just thinking yesterday that is equivalent to having your children go from birth to a senior in high school. Wow, when you look at it like that, it's amazing!

Lastly, Tyler has always picked the sunny spots on the floor to sleep, but I always attributed that to the fact that he was a Southern dog (VA) who moved to the cold Northeast (MA). Hope this helps you.


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My last dog was a Bichon who passed away at 14 1/2 years old. During the last few years of her life I really noticed a decline in her vision and hearing. She also became a deep sleeper because she was not hearing all the noises that had alerted her in the past. She also started having pee accidents in the house again. The worst part of her old age for me was her frequent whining. I could never be sure why she was doing it but it sure drove us all crazy. Funny how now I would give anything to hear that whine again.



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My guys are still puppies compare to the your older Havi's but I just want to thank you for sharing your stories. Helps prepare us of what to expected they get older.


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My last dog was a Bichon who passed away at 14 1/2 years old... The worst part of her old age for me was her frequent whining. I could never be sure why she was doing it but it sure drove us all crazy. Funny how now I would give anything to hear that whine again.
I am going to remember this comment every time I get frustrated with my little guy. It sure puts things in perspective.


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Things start slowing down, and stuff stops working as good as it used to, as with us. The only thing different I know to look for is if an aged one started to not hold its weight, start feeding it more. Twinkle eats more than double now what she did when she was younger, like 14. Sometimes she sleeps so hard that I think she has already passed, but she usually lifts her head with a don't bother me air.

They sleep more and more. Day before yesterday, Twinkle didn't even wake up, or get out of bed. Pam and I picked her up,trimmed her hair, and gave her a bath. She complained as usual. Pam was thinking that she might have stopped eating, and that she was close to the end. After all that, when it got to be suppertime, she went to her spot, and started letting us know that she was good and ready for her supper NOW dammit. She was back up and at'em the next morning when it came time to eat, and is back to her routine of sleeping until it's time to get up to eat. We don't have any idea how long it will last, but as long as she continues to enjoy eating, it looks like she will be with us.
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My Nessie is only 7 but she has a chronic illness that has aged her. I have noticed that she has started the old person "what was I doing?" wandering. I have found her stuck with her head in the corner. Why she was there - haven't a clue - I don't think she knew either.

I keep trying to get her a nice orthopedic bed but she is a bed fluffer/nester and rather have a couple of blankets.

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This is all so useful to know, however far in advance for some of us; my Coton is only 7, but the difference between him and Cuba who is just over a year, is already marked. Tycho can be so puppy-ish sometimes and other times he's like a grumpy old man! He can RLH faster than her when he wants to, but she's well advised to leave him in peace when he's sunbathing!! My first Coton was so ill in the end that she was pretty much like owning an old dog; she was stone deaf because of her illness and I first noticed it because she would only walk in front of me on walks if the sun was behind me and she could see my shadow thrown ahead of me - she needed to know where I was but couldn't hear my footsteps so had to have a visual hold on the situation - I did experiments to test this hypothesis, and it panned out every time. The whining is, as Mary says, a cognitive function sign as I understand it, too. I've read somewhere that it can sometimes be caused by tinnitus that aggravates the dog. Sitting in corners and staring at walls, or seeming apparently to have forgotten where they are going is, just like humans, a consequence of cognitive decline into dementia. I too would give anything to hear Pamba whine again, though I wouldn't want her to be suffering.
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