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Sawyer is 2.5 years old now. Up until about a year ago he would eat anything as long as it was meat flavored...and now he has turned into a very picky eater. I have tried several high quality kibbles, and he does not seem to like the flavor. Or he will like the flavor, but get sick of it before the bag is done. His brother (my Westie) is on Ziwi Peak for allergy reasons and Sawyer loves that. The only problem is when he eats a fair amount (not even a full feedings worth) his stools are loose, not diarrhea but looser than normal. I have been putting a small amount of ziwipeak on top of Sawyer's food which works somewhat.

I have thought about Honest Kitchen. My Westie was on that for a while and I seem to remember him having more frequent stools (which I don't really want either). I am open to all suggestions, except frozen raw as I travel frequently and it is difficuly to bring along. Any good tasting high quality kibble or freeze dried raw out there? Also hoping to not break the bank as my allergy prone Westie is already doing that
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Sabine says" Ziwi Peak is a good food as far as quality is concerned, but it is super high in fat and relatively low in fiber, so not all dogs do well on it. I see especially a lot of little dogs 1. overfed on it because feeding portions of super high calorie food are so small and 2. developing loose stools from high fat and not much fiber. "
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My Molly has been an extremely picky eater from day one. We have tried a lot of different kibble. She seems to enjoy the Natures Variety brand. The kibble has a raw coating on it that is supposed to enhance the flavor. It comes plain or with freeze dried raw bites mixed in. They also have a lot of freeze dried raw options that I put in with her kibble that she really loves. It might be worth a try. It has also been really helpful that I have been able to return any bag of kibble I have purchased if she did not like it.



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Emmie used to get loose stools but I did a food sensitivity test with NutriScan and discovered she's reactive to white fish, salmon, and some other ingredients. I feed her ZiwiPeak (air dried and canned) and Primal frozen raw and she hasn't had any issues now that I know which proteins and carbs to stay away from. I also like Honest Kitchen but find it makes her stools larger and looser so I tend to just use it as a topper. Every dog is different so you may have to try a variety of brands before you find what works best for Sawyer. Good luck!

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This is all good advice about food, but one other factor hear is the "dog in the manger" factor. I had 3 other Havs visiting here last Fri. (so a total of 4 dogs) I put out NINE antlers for them, and they STILL argued over them, thinking the one the other dog had MUST be a "better" one.

I think I would decide what I wanted the dog to eat, then feed them completely separately. Pick up both bowls in 10 minutes or so, and don't offer ANYTHING else until the next meal. Do this for a while, and they will realize that they'd better eat what they are served. Healthy dogs won't starve themselves.


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We have a fair number of visiting Havanese to come stay with us. Some will be "picky" eaters for the first couple of days. They get fed with the other members of our pack. After missing a couple of meals because some of the other dogs got theirs, they forget all about being a picky eater. I haven't seen one yet that will starve itself, or even get past really hungry if presented with food to eat. It's always interesting to see if they are once again a picky eater when they come back a year later. Some are, and some aren't.

These dogs are really smart. They are really good at training their owners.

For one by itself, I'd recommend exactly what Karen said.

Ours are currently all doing great, and love eating, Earthborn.
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Great advice about not giving in, but I'm easy and gave in several times. What I finally decided I didn't want to do was feed wet food as a kibble topping anymore as Manny tended to have soft stools. We switched to Fromm's kibble which he loves and will eat without the wet topping. What I like about the Fromm's is that they have a nice variety of proteins but the basic formula is similar enough that when I've switched from one protein to another he hasn't had problems with loose stools. I buy two bags, different proteins, and switch them out so he doesn't get stuck with the same thing every day. The other thing that I like is that the food has probiotics in it. Since changing to Fromm's I've quit giving him daily probiotics and haven't had any loose stools since changing.

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Great advice about not giving in, but I'm easy and gave in several times. What I finally decided I didn't want to do was feed wet food as a kibble topping anymore as Manny tended to have soft stools. We switched to Fromm's kibble which he loves and will eat without the wet topping. What I like about the Fromm's is that they have a nice variety of proteins but the basic formula is similar enough that when I've switched from one protein to another he hasn't had problems with loose stools. I buy two bags, different proteins, and switch them out so he doesn't get stuck with the same thing every day. The other thing that I like is that the food has probiotics in it. Since changing to Fromm's I've quit giving him daily probiotics and haven't had any loose stools since changing.
It's a mistake to think it's wet food that makes for wet stools; it's often, as Dave says, the fat content, or more often still the grain content. The firmest, driest stools come from eating raw. As for the pickiness, yup, been there, still there some days; and I just think that, like us, there are days when they simply aren't that hungry. As Tom says, they won't starve. I worry when a whole day, and on rare occasion, even two whole days go by and they haven't eaten. But they will when they are hungry again. With Cuba I wonder if sometimes it isn't a hormonal thing - her eating patterns when she was in season were completely different. With Tycho I think he just doesn't find food all that interesting most of the time and will only bother with it when his little body says it needs it.
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Lalla, I was feeding Manny Wellness grain free canned so perhaps it was a protein issue, but I've never fed any of my dogs canned foods and been happy with their stools. Another thing I didn't like about using it as a topping was that Manny started to eat the canned food and leave the kibble. It was a battle for me waiting him out when I quit adding the canned. I know they won't starve themselves, but I'm way too easy and it kills me to eat in front of them knowing they haven't eaten. When I switched to Fromm's, he gobbled it down like it was canned food and his stools are much dryer. They weren't loose with the canned food, but they were sticky.

Kristin, I'm happy with the Fromm's and he loves it. I pay $11.99 for a 4 pound bag so I feel that's it very reasonable compared to some of the others we tried.

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